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re: WSJ breaking: trump considering starting new party, the "patriot party"

Posted on 1/20/21 at 2:55 am to
Posted by TchoupitoulasTiger
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Posted on 1/20/21 at 2:55 am to
This will probably never be read since it’s on the 8th page, but whatever. Any new party needs to begin with the letters A, B, or C. Having Democrat as the first option on a ballot makes it too easy for them to cheat.
This post was edited on 1/20/21 at 2:56 am
Posted by LSUJuicer
Member since Jan 2013
3356 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 4:53 am to
Please please do this!!!!! Republicans and Patriots will never win office if this happens. Mass millions will vote for Trump while real Republicans who won’t vote Democrat will vote Republican. This will ruin the right side. Trump will learn his 75 million votes will be more like 35 million.
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
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Posted on 1/20/21 at 5:57 am to
if he does it will pretty much guarantee further dem control

it'll pretty much be the republican party without anybody saying "hey wait a second..."




This post was edited on 1/20/21 at 6:14 am
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 1/20/21 at 6:01 am to
Trump needs to do this and he needs to get Lion Ted on board since the Lion was his star pupil and now out performs him.

I think you pair Lion Ted as president with an outsider VP like a Dave Portnoy. You get the trump swagger with both, you get some political seasoning with Cruz who has also learned the ropes under Trump and Portnoy brings outsider business knowledge. He is a voice against pc bullshite and now has skins on the wall as doing more to help people during a pandemic than the stupid us gov
Posted by Rex Feral
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Posted on 1/20/21 at 6:07 am to
quote:

Trump needs to do this and he needs to get Lion Ted on board since the Lion was his star pupil and now out performs him.

I think you pair Lion Ted as president with an outsider VP like a Dave Portnoy. You get the trump swagger with both, you get some political seasoning with Cruz who has also learned the ropes under Trump and Portnoy brings outsider business knowledge. He is a voice against pc bull shite and now has skins on the wall as doing more to help people during a pandemic than the stupid us gov



That's not a bad idea. The problem this creates is it divides the conservative base between republicans and the patriot party which will make it easier for the democrats to win every election. We'll have to do something to pull in moderates and minorities. Especially Latinos and blacks who vote democrat but have very little in common with them.
Posted by Wednesday
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Posted on 1/20/21 at 6:10 am to
I agree with you. Trump can pull this off if he converts, but only if he converts some existing elected Republicans, and maybe a Democrat somewhere. If there are any noninsane ones left. There definitely are not on the Federal level. He needs a few senators, the HR Freedom
caucus and a few governors (dream Candidates- Kristi Noem and Ron Desantis). Desantis is the best fricking Governor in the country.

The GOPe has no base, mandate or relevance. They’re fricking idiotic for kneecapping the first popular president since Reagan. They’ll eventually need to convert the Patriot Party as swing votes against the Demomarxists anyway. GOPe needs the Patriots more than the Patriots need them. Turtle even suggesting that impeaching Trump is in anyway advisable was my walk away point.

frick the GOPe. They’re part of the problem. Let them go the way of the Whigs.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
14933 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 6:12 am to
I agree it will give the dems more seats but some pain is going to be needed to fix the US. The republicans can’t win without a trump like figure. If Mitch the bitch actually cared about winning and the country he would hand over the reigns to all that rode the trump coattails into office. The only chance the right has is the trump base.

A trump lead patriot party could likely hold onto the Latinos and other minorities with the right messaging. It’s a long slog to beat hand outs and the fake news media. It will require a ground game that is unrelenting and willing to go into areas most republicans would never go to actually show they care about those voices.

Hopefully the left loses control of their extreme wing and it breaks off. If we go into 4 parties we will be a lot better off as a country.
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
15453 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 6:15 am to
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We'll have to do something to pull in moderates and minorities. Especially Latinos and blacks who vote democrat but have very little in common with them.


Did you sleep thru the 2020 campaign? Trump converted more black voters and Latinos than any useless GOPe in history. Those people are Trump’s most ardent supporters. They basically walked thru fire to get him elected. The conversion wasn’t -
Trump was a rejection of Biden; the conversion was a rejection of the Democrat party. I think this part of Trump’s base was more hesitant to switch to GOP (bc the GOP is soulless and terrible) than they were to vote for Trump.

How much in common does a black truck driver have with fricking Mitt Romney? Trump met those guys where they live. Mittens just tried to be a new overlord. Mitt is every terrible stereotype about white people that ever existed.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
14933 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 6:19 am to
I agree,

I think it will be easier to recruit a lot of the new house members that won because they aligned with trump. He also needs to keep people like Candace Owens and Kim Klaccick on his side.

You get a big fish like Cruz and it could be game on. Hopefully someone sees that being a prop for the dems to beat up isn’t the way and that if you fight for the people you can win.

The hurdle is going to be the fake news media. They will lie cheat and steal. The only way to beat them is a insane ground game. The rallies were great but we need those in the inner cities and minority community. It would be great to see some of the new party working with a Vernon Jones who we flipped from D to R. Any like him that come over, we need to support with money and real community projects and work that gets results. It has to be tangible and personable so the media can’t lie. The dem media would shite it’s self if a trump now that he has time or another young republican was to volunteer time to youth in minority communities.

Imagine trump making large donations of suites to inner city teens, taking some from failing high schools and getting them into private schools, things of that nature. It takes years to foster but it could be huge.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26583 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 6:22 am to
Yea! Let’s hand every possible race to the Democrats for two or three election cycles! Definitely a great idea.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26583 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 6:23 am to
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If we go into 4 parties we will be a lot better off as a country.


It cannot and will not happen. Over the course of a few election cycles, which Democrats would utterly dominate, it will be back down to two parties.
This post was edited on 1/20/21 at 6:25 am
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26583 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 6:25 am to
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My guy is straight up Teddy Roosevelt without all the socialism.


The only thing that Roosevelt’s third party run did was elect Woodrow Wilson. Nothing more.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
14933 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 6:32 am to
Don’t care you can eat shite establishment boring arse gop that is nothing more than a fake opponent to the dems.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
14933 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 6:33 am to
Possible but if the dems who promises radical change get cold feet just like Obama the left wing might break away. They have gotten more violent and demanding.
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
15453 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 6:42 am to
quote:

The only thing that Roosevelt’s third party run did was elect Woodrow Wilson. Nothing more.


What other Elected Republicans did Teddy bring with him when he made his run again?

Posted by LSU0358
Member since Jan 2005
7919 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 7:06 am to
Something like that will take a lot of work and consistent effort. Not sure Trump has it him to do much beside nuke the GOP in certain states.
Posted by IslandBuckeye
Boca Chica, Panama
Member since Apr 2018
10067 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 7:24 am to
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Why? Fbi will actively target everyone who joins it. Irs will target them as well. Local politicians will target them.


It will drive any undecided Patriots towards the Patriot party.

At least those with any degree of testicular fortitude.

Note: the last was metaphorical. Estrogenic fortitude was implied.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19635 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 7:43 am to
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Hate it cause it just ensures a democratic victory. The path of least resistance is to transform the Republican Party.


The RINOS will rejoice since 72% of Republicans want the Party to be more like Trump. Better to form as the MAGA wing of the GOP along with the Tea Party so the RINOS can be purged.
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
27432 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 7:44 am to
How would they know? Did he tweet it?
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