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Why Tribalism Took Over Our Politics
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:08 pm
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:08 pm
Here you go, all you lizard brain fools. Your brain is hard wired for hostility and conflict, and most of you are too prone to giving into your emotion to push beyond that initial response to get to reasoned debate and decency.
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Ahead of his arrest on Thursday in Georgia, Donald Trump repeatedly told his supporters about the legal peril he faced from charges of election interference. But the danger wasn’t his alone, he said. “In the end, they’re not coming after me. They’re coming after you,” he told a campaign rally.
It was the latest example of the Republican former president employing a potent driver of America’s partisan divide: group identity. Decades of social science research show that our need for collective belonging is forceful enough to reshape how we view facts and affect our voting decisions. When our group is threatened, we rise to its defense.
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The split in the electorate has left many Americans fatigued and worried that partisanship is undermining the country’s ability to solve its problems. Calling themselves America’s “exhausted majority,” tens of thousands of people have joined civic groups, with names such as Braver Angels, Listen First and Unify America, and are holding cross-party conversations in search of ways to lower the temperature in political discourse.
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Yet the research on the power of group identity suggests the push for a more respectful political culture faces a disquieting challenge. The human brain in many circumstances is more suited to tribalism and conflict than to civility and reasoned debate.
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Trump, in responding to his indictment in Georgia for conspiring to overturn his 2020 loss in that state, amplified the sense of threat by telling a party gathering that they were engaged in a “final battle” that he described as “an epic struggle to rescue our country from the sinister forces within who hate it.” The criminal prosecutions, his campaign said in a fundraising email Thursday, were designed “to intimidate you out of voting to save your country.”
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Party allegiance can affect our judgment and behavior, many experiments show. When Shanto Iyengar of Stanford University and Sean J. Westwood, then at Princeton University, asked a group of Democrats and Republicans to review the résumés of two fictitious high-school students in a 2015 study, their subjects proved more likely to award a scholarship to the student who matched their own party affiliation. People in the experiment gave political party more weight than the student’s race or even grade-point average.
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In a landmark 2013 study, Dan Kahan, a Yale University law professor, and colleagues assessed the math skills of about 1,000 adults, a mix of self-described liberals, conservatives and moderates. Then, the researchers gave them a politically inflected math problem to solve, presenting data that pointed to whether cities that had banned concealed handguns experienced a decrease or increase in crime. In half the tests, solving the problem correctly showed that a concealed-carry ban reduced crime rates. In the other half, the correct solution would suggest that crime had risen.
The result was striking: The more adept the test-takers were at math, the more likely they were to get the correct answer—but only when the right answer matched their political outlook. When the right answer ran contrary to their political stance—that is, when liberals drew a version of the problem suggesting that gun control was ineffective—they tended to give the wrong answer. They were no more likely to solve the problem correctly than were people in the study who were less adept at math.
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Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:11 pm to CollegeFBRules
We've been fighting against statists since the first government was formed.
Not tribalism; simply the inherent yearning for freedom.
Not tribalism; simply the inherent yearning for freedom.
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:12 pm to CollegeFBRules
Just get yourself a parrot and teach it to say “Trump’s fault, Trump’s fault” and nothing else. Then you’re set to go.
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:13 pm to BengalOnTheBay
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Not tribalism; simply the inherent yearning for freedom.
Absolutely tribalism. Yearning for freedom can cross tribes, but the tribe is the driving force.
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:13 pm to davyjones
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Just get yourself a parrot and teach it to say “Trump’s fault, Trump’s fault” and nothing else. Then you’re set to go.
What does this response have to do in any way with the article posted?
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:16 pm to CollegeFBRules
You would likely make a good bit of money if you wagered that those studies you cite are garbage. They make good fodder for press releases and publication in well known, high impact journals, and every incentive is there to falsify data, as recent scandals at places like Harvard have shown us.
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:17 pm to CollegeFBRules
It was pretty easy. Basically just take the first two words of your thread title, then the quoted material particularly what’s right off the bat in the first paragraph……and there you have it. The ultimate point is not all that subtle.
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:19 pm to CollegeFBRules
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Why Tribalism Took Over Our Politics
Voting Rights Act is a good start. When you have a law that assumes people can only be represented by people that look like them, we wo t have a functioning country based on the levels of diversity we have here.
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:20 pm to POTUS2024
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You would likely make a good bit of money if you wagered that those studies you cite are garbage.
I didn’t cite any studies, I cited an article by WSJ. I do believe your default assumption lends credence to the article rather than debunking it. It’s rather hard to argue that we don’t all default to defending our positions, whether we try to do it with citations from websites that confirm our bias, or emotion. The responses to this OP will prove the article, but so few will be able to read the responses and giggle at the irony.
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:23 pm to CollegeFBRules
Trump stood up to the establishment the best he could his first go round.
Next round will go after the deep state then the establishment.
Sorry that hurt people’s feelings.
Trump wasn’t the first and won’t be the last anti-establishment guy. Looks like one will pop up every cycle. The masses want it.
Next round will go after the deep state then the establishment.
Sorry that hurt people’s feelings.
Trump wasn’t the first and won’t be the last anti-establishment guy. Looks like one will pop up every cycle. The masses want it.
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:26 pm to CollegeFBRules
Now Trump is employing Rules for Radicals?
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:28 pm to CollegeFBRules
This is all fine but the tribalism and divisiveness started in overdrive 8 years before Trump ever came down the escalator.
Obama was anything but the Great Uniter.
There’s never been room for “reasoned debate and decency” when it comes to modern Progressivism and it’s “woke” mantra.
Trump hasn’t been one to build consensus, even within the GOP at present - but let’s not get amnesia and act like all this shite started with him and everything was fine and dandy, shites and giggles prior.
Trump was a result, not a cause.
Obama was anything but the Great Uniter.
There’s never been room for “reasoned debate and decency” when it comes to modern Progressivism and it’s “woke” mantra.
Trump hasn’t been one to build consensus, even within the GOP at present - but let’s not get amnesia and act like all this shite started with him and everything was fine and dandy, shites and giggles prior.
Trump was a result, not a cause.
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:36 pm to Great Plains Drifter
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Trump was a result, not a cause.
Never ever ever his fault
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:41 pm to CollegeFBRules
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Yet the research on the power of group identity suggests the push for a more respectful political culture faces a disquieting challenge. The human brain in many circumstances is more suited to tribalism and conflict than to civility and reasoned debate.
You posted this quote, convinced it was supporting your point?
We have tried a more respectful political culture, all the way up until 2016. And it ended up with our opponents having no fear in arresting their leading contender, for speaking out against them
You just debunked your entire putrid dissertation in one fell swoop
Nicely done
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:43 pm to CollegeFBRules
The tin foil hat crowd isn’t going to like rhis
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:44 pm to CollegeFBRules
Does extreme narcissism come from a complete lack of self awareness or vice versa? Or I guess maybe they are just two sides of the same coin.
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:47 pm to NawlinsTiger9
My friend, you can’t really fault a man for making an argument that Donald Trump isn’t personally responsible for “tribalism taking over politics,” can you? Well, I guess you can make the argument for it, but it shouldn’t come as a surprise that someone comes along and makes the counter argument against. Two opposing arguments on a particular topic - standard stuff. But you can’t chastise and dismiss one of the two “sides” merely for making its argument to begin with. That’s just not true debate, it’s pontificating.
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:48 pm to davyjones
You just spent 100 words to say “Nuh uh!”
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:49 pm to CollegeFBRules
A couple good reads that weren’t liberal when they were written and I’m not sure where they would land now.
Walt Truett Anderson “Reality Isnt What it Used To be”
Michael Perenti “ Land of idols”
Walt Truett Anderson “Reality Isnt What it Used To be”
Michael Perenti “ Land of idols”
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