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re: Why Tribalism Took Over Our Politics
Posted on 8/27/23 at 8:34 am to thebigmuffaletta
Posted on 8/27/23 at 8:34 am to thebigmuffaletta
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Who are you voting for?
The field isn't set yet, so I'm not sure.
Not Biden or Newsome. I can say that confidently.
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Posted on 8/27/23 at 8:36 am to SlowFlowPro
Well it’s a near certainty that Trump will be the Republican nominee and unless Biden doesn’t run he’ll be the democrat nominee. You’re either voting for one of those two or 3rd party.
Posted on 8/27/23 at 8:36 am to NawlinsTiger9
Look at this Obama loving commie. Run back
To DU.
To DU.
Posted on 8/27/23 at 8:39 am to thebigmuffaletta
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You’re either voting for one of those two or 3rd party.
Yes
Posted on 8/27/23 at 8:44 am to thebigmuffaletta
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Like who?
The field isn't set yet, so I'm not sure.
Not Biden or Newsome. I can say that confidently.
Posted on 8/27/23 at 8:47 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Most normal people dislike Trump.
Heck, I don't like Trump,
but at some point I had to reconcile my dislike with the fact that the entire political, legal and social apparatus was aligned against him; the same machine that has brought us to the brink of communism. Sometimes it takes an SOB to get the job done. I can like a person's convictions without liking the person.
Posted on 8/27/23 at 8:48 am to SlowFlowPro
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The field isn't set yet, so I'm not sure.
I was referring to 3rd party. If you’re not voting for Trump or Biden then who?
Posted on 8/27/23 at 8:49 am to CollegeFBRules
I don't have a big problem with your post. It's terrible on the other side, though, too. I have been spending a bunch of time around 15-20 TDS liberals the last week due to my dad dying. They just gobble up CNN/MSNBC talking points.
I'm not sure if the growth of cable shows, message boards, podcasts, and social media is helping. Everyone just goes to their echo chamber. Things may have been healthier when two moderates went on Meet the Press and that's all we were exposed to. The only glimmers of hope I see out there for the country are some alt-right and alt-left podcasts/outlets seemingly coming together like Greenwald, Rogan, Taibbi, Pat Bet-David, Viva & Barnes, RFK, Jimmy Dore, and even Cenk Uygur and Chris Cuomo reaching out a little to the other side. But, corporate media is a cancer that is going to be a problem until the boomers are gone.
I'm not sure if the growth of cable shows, message boards, podcasts, and social media is helping. Everyone just goes to their echo chamber. Things may have been healthier when two moderates went on Meet the Press and that's all we were exposed to. The only glimmers of hope I see out there for the country are some alt-right and alt-left podcasts/outlets seemingly coming together like Greenwald, Rogan, Taibbi, Pat Bet-David, Viva & Barnes, RFK, Jimmy Dore, and even Cenk Uygur and Chris Cuomo reaching out a little to the other side. But, corporate media is a cancer that is going to be a problem until the boomers are gone.
Posted on 8/27/23 at 8:49 am to thebigmuffaletta
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If you’re not voting for Trump or Biden then who?
There's a decent chance the major party nominees aren't Trump or Biden, so, again.
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The field isn't set yet, so I'm not sure.
Posted on 8/27/23 at 8:52 am to SlowFlowPro
At some point you have ask yourself: Why is the entire media, political and social machine aligned against this man, even to the point they're willing to begin the practice of politically jailing your opponents and those who question a narrative.
If there's no difference between Trump and DeSantis, if the same corporate interests are backing both, why favor one over the other?
Unless one isn't really your guy.
If there's no difference between Trump and DeSantis, if the same corporate interests are backing both, why favor one over the other?
Unless one isn't really your guy.
Posted on 8/27/23 at 8:56 am to NawlinsTiger9
quote:never ever proven it was
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Trump was a result, not a cause.
Never ever ever his fault
despite charging it for coming up on a decade
you are dishonest
Posted on 8/27/23 at 8:56 am to CollegeFBRules
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Yearning for freedom can cross tribes
Sure…conservatives want to be free to be able to support the constitution.
Prog filth want to be free to commit child abuse.
A shitbag like yourself equating the two is not surprising.
Posted on 8/27/23 at 8:59 am to CorchJay
Dude, you fool. The deep state has already defeated Trump with an assist from Trump himself
Posted on 8/27/23 at 9:00 am to Perfect Circle
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Why is the entire media, political and social machine aligned against this man,
The Left invested in the media over decades. It's not shocking they don't support the Republican nominee. They did the same shite against Romney, McCain, GWB, etc. Trump isn't special.
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even to the point they're willing to begin the practice of politically jailing your opponents and those who question a narrative.
Trump's criminal allegations go beyond "questioning a narrative", brother. Yes, his statements are alleged evidence of the conspiracy, but you can't just take individual pieces of evidence in a RICO case and examine them individually. You have to look at the entire picture (for the "enterprise" portion of the law).
Think of it like circumstantial evidence, and the best way I've ever heard that described is with a pencil. One piece of circumstantial evidence = 1 pencil. It's easy to break a pencil. It's hard to break a bundle of 20 and impossible to break a bundle of 100. RICO kind of works in the same philosophical way.
The state-based cases are clearly political and somewhat weak. The federal prosecution is stronger, but the strongest claims are the ones Trump created himself (the obstruction-based claims). Trump acted like a compete fricking idiot and gave them all of the prosecutions (outside of NY which involves old facts for the "crime").
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If there's no difference between Trump and DeSantis, if the same corporate interests are backing both, why favor one over the other?
I mean I don't really support RDS, but he's not pushing economic leftism at the same rate as Trump. He also has shown to get shite done and may be more electable, nationally (assuming MAGA doesn't have an emotional meltdown and sit it out).
Posted on 8/27/23 at 9:00 am to SlowFlowPro
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There's a decent chance the major party nominees aren't Trump or Biden, so, again.
Define “decent chance.”
The ONLY way Trump isn’t the nominee is if this act of political persecution is successful (either via a corrupt judiciary, or a corrupt RNC).
As for Biden, who knows.
That being said, it would not surprise me if the communazis trot him out again just to rub it in the faces of ordinary Americans.
Posted on 8/27/23 at 9:00 am to SlowFlowPro
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There's a decent chance the major party nominees aren't Trump or Biden, so, again.
Both Trump and Biden enjoy an insurmountable lead. Unless Biden decides not to run he’ll be the nominee. Your choices are Trump, Biden, or 3rd party.
Decide between those three choices
Posted on 8/27/23 at 9:01 am to jimmy the leg
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Sure…conservatives want to be free to be able to support the constitution.
Then why does Trump get so much support from "conservatives"?
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Prog filth want to be free to commit child abuse.
Well that's certainly a direct comparison.
Posted on 8/27/23 at 9:01 am to Bunk Moreland
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But, corporate media is a cancer that is going to be a problem until the boomers are gone.
Posted on 8/27/23 at 9:02 am to jimmy the leg
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Sure…conservatives want to be free to be able to support the constitution.
True. However populism is kind of antithetical to it.
Trying to fit populism into the right side of the spectrum is the best way to push the right into accepting socialism and more govt authority.
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