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re: why is the divide so great now, or has it always been this way?
Posted on 3/22/14 at 10:21 pm to Sleeping Tiger
Posted on 3/22/14 at 10:21 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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They have some major commonalities
Then say THAT. They DON'T have the same goals.
Occupy wants to transfer enormous power TO The State and the Tea Party wants to transfer power AWAY from The State. You are trying WAY to hard to gloss over what is essentially the key ingredient here.
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Posted on 3/22/14 at 10:21 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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Their core desires are essentially the same. Take power from the corporate/government machine and give it to the people.
the occupy movement wants to give the power to the government, though
Posted on 3/22/14 at 10:22 pm to Lsupimp
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Occupy wants to transfer enormous power TO The State
you're about to be told "the people" is not "the state"
Posted on 3/22/14 at 10:24 pm to Libertyabides71
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One group is fundamentally wanting those things to increase economic freedom and opportunity, the other is to simply break down the Market economy there is your big difference.
I disagree, I think there is a gross misunderstanding of Occupy, and rightfully so.
I don't want to speak for the movement, since I don't support it, but I'll say most people have bought into the media's portrayal and it's not very accurate. Your comment is a reflection of that portrayal.
Listen, I'm not saying these groups have the exact same goals, I just think they are both anti big government and big corporation. There isn't a place for either in a growing fascist state, which is why both are demonized.
Posted on 3/22/14 at 10:27 pm to Sleeping Tiger
You haven't read what the Occupy movement put out themselves. But like Communism they don't really mean what they say right?
Posted on 3/22/14 at 10:27 pm to SlowFlowPro
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the occupy movement wants to give the power to the government, though
Posted on 3/22/14 at 10:28 pm to SlowFlowPro
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the occupy movement wants to give the power to the government, though
Not really, not in the sense that you think.
They want to eliminate this collusion between gov't and corporations so that government can act on the best interest of the people instead of itself and the corporations feeding it.
They want to eliminate the federal overreach, make government simpler and less intrusive.
The idea that Occupy wants to empower and grow government is inaccurate.
This post was edited on 3/22/14 at 10:30 pm
Posted on 3/22/14 at 10:31 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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I just think they are both anti big government and big corporation.
I think this is probably wrong, and probably a contradiction.
Posted on 3/22/14 at 10:33 pm to Stingray
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I think this is probably wrong, and probably a contradiction.
How is it a contradiction?
And it's not wrong, although you're free to believe that it is.
Posted on 3/22/14 at 10:33 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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so that government can act on the best interest of the people
Exactly.
Whereas The Tea Party wants government to act IN the best interest of the people.
Thanks for clarifying.
Posted on 3/22/14 at 10:33 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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Not really, not in the sense that you think.
the only practical and realistic option is a government. i don't care what unicorn-based reality they believe in...it will take the form of government. this is like marxism and russian communism all over again
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They want to eliminate this collusion between gov't and corporations so that government can act on the best interest of the people instead of itself and the corporations feeding it.
and that's impossible. government power = corruption. giving government more power - more corruption
this is the flaw in their ideology
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They want to eliminate the federal overreach, make government simpler and less intrusive.
by expanding its regulatory powers
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The idea that Occupy wants to empower and grow government is inaccurate.
in reality it is accurate
Posted on 3/22/14 at 10:34 pm to Lsupimp
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Exactly.
Whereas The Tea Party wants government to act IN the best interest of the people.
Thanks for clarifying.
No difference. I could have easily said 'in' instead of 'on'.
Posted on 3/22/14 at 10:35 pm to Sleeping Tiger
Just point us to the link where the tea party has an anti big corporation platform.
Posted on 3/22/14 at 10:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
Well that was certainly a quote snipe hack job.
Often times what is said before or after something is important to the overall context. Things should be read and absorbed in their full context.
What you did, and often do, is strip the full context which alters the relevance of a sentence.
It's very easy to attack things one sentence at a time, it's a little harder to try and absorb the full context and respond.
Often times what is said before or after something is important to the overall context. Things should be read and absorbed in their full context.
What you did, and often do, is strip the full context which alters the relevance of a sentence.
It's very easy to attack things one sentence at a time, it's a little harder to try and absorb the full context and respond.
This post was edited on 3/22/14 at 10:41 pm
Posted on 3/22/14 at 10:42 pm to Stingray
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Just point us to the link where the tea party has an anti big corporation platform.
The fact that you just said this is a bit scary, and a great reminder that I shouldn't waste a Saturday night on here.
Cheers.
Posted on 3/22/14 at 10:43 pm to Sleeping Tiger
full context: the societal shaping of the occupy movement requires government...an expansion of government. i'm perfectly willing to listen to how they plan on enacting the changes without an expansion of government, however
Posted on 3/22/14 at 10:43 pm to Sleeping Tiger
then post it
Posted on 3/22/14 at 10:45 pm to Sleeping Tiger
Again, you jumped the shark. You really did. Not because you don't have valid points (which you do) but because you are ignoring data that doesn't fit your Narrative. And because you are relying on overstatement.
They do NOT have the same goals. Sorry man, it's evident to everybody that appreciates fact. Now they certainly have many of the same RESENTMENTS, the same anger at an OVERCLASS that evades the law and RULES self-interestedly more than GOVERNS justly.
So let's just gentlemanly agree on something like that and move on.
They do NOT have the same goals. Sorry man, it's evident to everybody that appreciates fact. Now they certainly have many of the same RESENTMENTS, the same anger at an OVERCLASS that evades the law and RULES self-interestedly more than GOVERNS justly.
So let's just gentlemanly agree on something like that and move on.
Posted on 3/23/14 at 3:08 am to Ralph_Wiggum
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The people who volunteer to die are mostly the sons and daughters of the working-class or religious whack jobs so the wealthy don't care about who dies in wars anymore.
Posted on 3/23/14 at 6:46 am to crazy4lsu
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it always been this way
uhhh....no
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