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re: Why is military spending ignored when its clearly the largest piece?

Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:39 pm to
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:39 pm to
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Either our Military successfully defends us against the biggest threat imaginable (NK/Islamist EMPs delivered from junk ships off our coasts)...or ALL is lost. Security is EVERYTHING, in an insecure (evil) World.

How sad.

You might want to go ahead and retreat to your bunker now.

I'll take liberty over security.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:42 pm to
1). It's one of the few things the government spends money on that it was originally designed to spend money on.

2). Democrats wouldn't match dollar for dollar cuts from other parts of the budget.
Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
4883 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:43 pm to
What other thing can match the military dollar for dollar? That's stupid, it's like saying cut it by percentage , 100% art for 100% military
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43338 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:44 pm to
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What other thing can match the military dollar for dollar?


Entitlements. Since they're the majority of the budget.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89548 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:45 pm to
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military


In the Constitution - clearly a federal function and no other aspect of our society can be responsible for it.

quote:

Arts


Great. We love our arts don't we folks? But, not in the Constitution and it is NONSENSICAL that folks are robbed, legally, at the point of a gun to fund such tripe.



Fixed all of that for you, baw.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67103 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:45 pm to
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Why is military spending ignored when its clearly the largest piece?


Because it is one of the few things our federal government does that it's actually supposed to do.

Now, don't get me wrong, we need to absolutely cleaver the military budget, but at least there is some Constitutional basis unlike our entitlement programs.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111540 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:46 pm to
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What other thing can match the military dollar for dollar? That's stupid, it's like saying cut it by percentage , 100% art for 100% military


No. I'm saying if you cut $60B in military spending, Democrats wouldn't agree to $60B in cuts in the entire rest of the budget. And the stalemate lives on.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8007 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:46 pm to
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Military is forced welfare. Most people who had alternative options choose not to go into military. Its the government's way to subsidize the less fortunate without calling it welfare but we know the truth.


How many days were you in the military?

Something like 3/4 of the military-aged population isn't even eligible to get in the military because of criminal record, physical issues (obesity), or intelligence deficits.

And the military is not the largest piece of the federal budget. That would be Social Security and then Medicare.
Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
4883 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:46 pm to
The Constitution was written when there was massive invasion in US soil. They also wrote that women and blacks could not vote nor work on same basis as white males.

Its outdated
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:47 pm to
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Entitlements. Since they're the majority of the budget.

Except that if you cut entitlments, you'd have to cut the funding sources for the entitlements. Therefore, the savings isn't as much.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89548 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:47 pm to
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Enlisting in the military is forced welfare.


frick you, aight? Recruits in basic training do more to earn their "welfare" ( ) than the layabouts do in 60 to 80 years, period.

There hasn't been a draft since the 1970s, either, fine sir.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:47 pm to
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I believe repaying the debt starts with cutting non-essential functions. Arts? Sure cut it, but 1B is nothing. Do we really need all the equipment? Do we really need all the personnel? I read that even if we cut military spending by HALF, we are still the largest spenders? There you go folks, you want lower taxes? You want to pay debts? Cut the military.
Mil spending definitely needs a hard look given its size as a portion of federal spending, but talking about addressing the deficit or other cutting back spending without touching entitlements is just chin music.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:47 pm to
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I believe repaying the debt starts with cutting non-essential functions. Arts? Sure cut it, but 1B is nothing.


Do we really need all the equipment? Do we really need all the personnel? I read that even if we cut military spending by HALF, we are still the largest spenders?

There you go folks, you want lower taxes? You want to pay debts? Cut the military.


The problem with drastically cutting military spending is twofold.

First, were in the midst of 15 years of war , we have been spending so much of our military budget on fighting those wars that we have not invested jack in replenishment and resupply . I mean we are stealing parts of running machines to get other machines operable again, can't even afford spare parts.

And the bigger issue is that A LOT of our military budget goes to suporting antiquated computer equipment and such that just costs more to maintain year in and year out than modern equipment would , but it would be a HUGE investment to upgrade , one that probably needs to be made.
Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
4883 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:48 pm to
Leave it to the southern football forums to put bigger weight on more guns over helping the less fortunate.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
34943 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:48 pm to
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I'll take liberty over security.


Cat crossing the road at I-10 and I-12 intersection.

I know what you mean WT. I've lived my whole life worshiping freedom over security. And my wife is really pissed at it. Kinda.
Posted by Cocotheape
Member since Aug 2015
3782 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:48 pm to
Tax deductions, credits or preferential rates that are granted for specific activities/behaviors/types of income or expense absolutely do represent the government subsidizing certain types of behavior.

Acting like money saved is different from money earned is naive. That line of thinking is somewhat responsible for the bloated tax code.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:48 pm to
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Great. We love our arts don't we folks? But, not in the Constitution and it is NONSENSICAL that folks are robbed, legally, at the point of a gun to fund such tripe.
Found a snowflake.
Posted by Machine
Earth
Member since May 2011
6001 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:48 pm to
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Entitlements. Since they're the majority of the budget.

We should slash both
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89548 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:49 pm to
Let me help you with it again:

quote:

more guns


IN the Constitution

quote:

helping the less fortunate


NOT IN the Constitution
Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
4883 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:49 pm to
Just throwing this out there: In the past 100 years, US was involved in 92% of all multinational wars
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