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re: Why is military spending ignored when its clearly the largest piece?

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Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:50 pm to
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They also wrote that women and blacks could not vote nor work on same basis as white males.



But they can now. Which is why the amendment process exists so your claim of

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Its outdated


Is patently false.
Posted by DCtiger1
Panama City Beach
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:51 pm to
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We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
Posted by TheXman
Middle America
Member since Feb 2017
2975 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:51 pm to
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Leave it to the southern football forums to put bigger weight on more guns over helping the less fortunate.


There it is.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8002 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:51 pm to
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Just throwing this out there: In the past 100 years, US was involved in 92% of all multinational wars


Do you have a citation for that source?

Define "involved". Define "multi-national war".

Given that the U.S. is the most powerful nation in the world and that the global system is generally set up to our social, economic, and political benefit, it stands to reason that we'll be involved more than others, but I find 92% pretty much impossible to believe.
Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
4817 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:51 pm to
Good, Iraq and Afghanistan wasnt domestic. Tell me again how our invasion to other countries defends domestic tranquility?
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19695 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:54 pm to
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15% is a ton. Given compounding year after year, I think it will be extremely significant. 

@ user who thinks we need more military: Why? I agree we need to enhance military technology. 

Enlisting in the military is forced welfare.
first, you are a giant dumbass. Second, why not look at the 85% of the budget for waste in entitlements spending instead of cutting funding from one of the few things the government does that it's actually supposed to be doing?
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
10975 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:54 pm to
It's not being ignored...Trump has already begun streamlining, renegotiating contracts, and mandating to DoD that efficiency is the order of the day.

However, because 99% of our country is happy to let other people volunteer to put their lives on the line for our freedoms, they might not have noticed the drain that fighting wars all over the place (albeit primarily in the ME), operating at tempos not seen since the heart of battle during WWII, being deprived the ability to plan due to cowards in Congress who hiding behind Continuing Resolutions instead of allocating funds through a transparent budget process, the folks we are taking care of (Saudi Arabia, European Union, et al) not footing hardly any of the bill, has caused our military to become terribly depleted in terms of equipment, training, and personnel. Hence the request to jump start that back to regular order with immediate cash.

Provide a real budget that allows the military to plan, be prepared, and create efficiencies while getting the global deadbeats to pay their fair share and you'll start to see less impact to the overall budget for the DoD line, though it will still be the largest such investment in the world. Because peace through strength.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89516 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:54 pm to
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Good, Iraq and Afghanistan wasnt domestic. Tell me again how our invasion to other countries defends domestic tranquility?


Argue all you want about Iraq. My position it was "right target, poor execution" - but I also see the argument from the other side that it was discretionary.

But, Afghanistan? If you can't see we needed to respond to 9/11 by going after the evil doers, than I don't know what else to tell you. This ain't Canada, baw.
Posted by DCtiger1
Panama City Beach
Member since Jul 2009
8777 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:54 pm to


you're kidding, right?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111515 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:55 pm to
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Leave it to the southern football forums to put bigger weight on more guns over helping the less fortuna


You just tapped out of your own argument.
Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
4817 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:55 pm to
9/11 was done majority by Saudis. Where is their piece of the war?
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:57 pm to
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Let me help you with it again:

This shtick.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71594 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:57 pm to
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I read that even if we cut military spending by HALF, we are still the largest spenders?


Not as a percentage.

Did anyone post that stupid defense spending chart yet?
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89516 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:59 pm to
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9/11 was done majority by Saudis. Where is their piece of the war?


Saudis operating out of Afghanistan under the auspices of AQ - themselves under the protection of the Taliban.

It wasn't Saudi Arabia, per se. Although I have my concerns over elements of their intelligence apparatus having involvement with the attack, that still doesn't change the fact that the attacks themselves were directed out of Afghanistan with the explicit consent of the unlawful government there at the time.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:59 pm to
Entitlements dwarf the military
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8002 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:59 pm to
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Not as a percentage.

Did anyone post that stupid defense spending chart yet?


Also doesn't take into account purchasing power parity.

When you consider that it takes the Russians or Chinese about a quarter as many financial resources to train a good soldier or field a fourth generation fighter as it does us, that gap narrows with a quickness.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111515 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 3:01 pm to
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Not as a percentage. Did anyone post that stupid defense spending chart yet?


Still early.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 3:01 pm to
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Why is military spending ignored when its clearly the largest piece?

Yeah..no. The largest expenditure, by far, is for things related to human services and benefits.
Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
4817 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 3:01 pm to
So you choose to believe some information but not others that do not fit your narrative?

Who do you think gave them the resource? Where did the people come from? Come on man, think.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35480 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 3:02 pm to
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Enlisting in the military is forced welfare

Either you don't know what welfare is or you don't know what military is. Pick one.
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