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re: Why haven't we heard what Paddock's political beliefs are yet?

Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:02 pm to
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
23605 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:02 pm to
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I don’t think an a-hole like this cares about politics. Well maybe just on the face of it...but politics aren’t their motivation. A cunning, methodical, determined mind like this is rare. It’s not about how many can I kill or ever who I’m killing. It’s about can I exploit the holes in society and kill.

exactly.... i don't know why the need to try to play politics on the back of this incredibly sad event...

Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:18 pm to
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How would you know if he weren't registered to vote and didn't have a social media presence that discussed politics You realize some people don't really give a shite about politics?


Of course I know that some people don't really give a shite about politics but some people do give a shite about politics and I want to find out whether his political beliefs had anything to do with his reason for murdering and injuring innocent people.

You are being disingenuous if you claim that after the recent politically motivated shooting by a Bernie supporter and the ISIS inspired shootings in California and Florida that people shouldn't care whether this also was a politically motivated shooting.

BTW, I don't think it was a politically motivated shooting.
Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
22089 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:22 pm to
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there's 59 people dead, and you are worried about what fricking party this dude belonged to??

bruh....


The MSM started this nonsense. The MSM was obsessed (to almost giddy levels) that country music fans are most likely Trump supporters.
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9417 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:23 pm to
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The evidence is there. I dont for one second trust the FBI to tell people the truth about what they found.


Just believe Facebook memes like the rest of this board
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73494 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:27 pm to
Trump is done it's over
Posted by JazzyJeff
Japan
Member since Sep 2006
3938 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:43 pm to
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You guys are pathetic. You're dying to be able to connect this lunatic to the left, no matter how tenuous that "connection may be.sad.
Well...the fact that the target/victims of this attack were white, country music fans make the jump to conclusion not too high.
Posted by Roaad
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Member since Aug 2006
76486 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:43 pm to
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I mean, they use other things too. Bombs, cars etc.
Are you calling for greater car control?
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:04 pm to
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Well...the fact that the target/victims of this attack were white, country music fans make the jump to conclusion not too high.


Go read the victim profiles on NPR or ny times. There were quite a few non-white victims. If that was his target, he did a poor job.
This post was edited on 10/5/17 at 10:05 pm
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35239 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:06 pm to
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Why haven't we heard what Paddock's political beliefs are yet?
Apparently there had been information available for a couple of days.

Fox News
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Paddock was not a registered Democrat or Republican
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and was not even registered to vote in Florida, where he had a permanent address.
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His family added that he never expressed any strong political views.
Given this, I think it's possible that we don't have know his political views, and the available evidence doesn't give us insight, because maybe he didn't have strong enough views to actually have any evidence to know what they were, especially since we can't ask him.

And frankly, if he did have any, it's possible that as a deeply disturbed indivdual, they wouldn't have fit into our typical way of viewing them anyways.

Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
51606 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:13 pm to
Why does everything have to be political? Maybe he was just an insane old man that snapped one day.
Posted by Roaad
White Privilege Broker
Member since Aug 2006
76486 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:20 pm to
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Why does everything have to be political?
the left politicized this event immediately
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83579 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:21 pm to
If it wasn’t politically motivated, why does it matter?
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83579 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:23 pm to
And the right politicizes every Muslim attack

Glass houses and shite
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35239 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:26 pm to
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When a bitter old angry man has a grievance...he lets everyone know about it.

But I'm willing to bet that every other instance in the history of the world of a bitter older man airing his grievances did not end with with the mass massacre of a bunch of random people, all of whom were probably unknown to the bitter old man.

In other words, this person, completely unknown to almost the entire world, has been the center of its attention because be committed an act that is rare, horrific, and outside even the blinds of the most horrific and exteme behaviors in our society.

So knowing that, why do people insist that all these unknowns about his beliefs, thoughts, feelings, and behaviors immediately prior to and/or directly related to, must fall back into something normal and easily understandable?
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35632 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:28 pm to
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You guys are pathetic. You're dying to be able to connect this lunatic to the left, no matter how tenuous that "connection may be.sad.



Well...the fact that the target/victims of this attack were white, country music fans make the jump to conclusion not too high.
He scouted other locations first. One of which was a concert attended by Malia Obama. LINK
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35239 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:56 pm to
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the left politicized this event immediately
Let's be clear here. The left was almost certainly going to politicize it quite quickly like they always do.

And the leftist politicians are USUALLY almost pathological in how good they are at it because they're USUALLY more subtle at the beginning, they USUALLY wait just long enough for the immediate shock and confusion to wear off but while the emotional impact is still very strong, they USUALLY let the narrative form a bit in the base to justify the need, and THEY usually allow enough facts to form to build the narrative around the specifics of the event and build a defense as well.

And this USUALLY allows those who lose interest to move on, it USUALLY allows those who aren't very critical to move past the time when they would be more likely to be critical, and it USUALLY allows for those who share their views but would prefer not to politicize it enough to justify in their minds that it wasn't politicized.

Yet, this time the response was blatant, immediate, and oddly directed, all counter to what they USUALLY do. And naturally the criticism that they USUALLY don't get from sources we don't USUALLY expect it from. And why was that? Because Hillary was the one who politicized it immediately.

All of those things that they USUALLY do, and are pathologically good at it, USUALLY come from people who are great at playing politics. And Hillary is one of the worst at playing politics, which is major reason she's not president; this only reaffirmed that.

Thankfully, she probably put a major blow in the left's ability to effectively politicize it because she did it so ineffectively. At the very least, they are going to have to put it off for far longer, to distance it from her obvious attempt to politicize it, or they're going to have to politicize it in a different way.
Posted by dead money
kyle, tx
Member since Feb 2014
1391 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:11 pm to
Social media doesn't really apply/appeal to senior citizens. Got to roll up the sleeves and do it the old fashioned way....by actually connecting the dots in the field.
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:20 pm to
It doesnt follow trends. With the exception of muslim terrorists, the purpetrators off mass killings always make clear their motivations
Posted by JazzyJeff
Japan
Member since Sep 2006
3938 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:27 pm to
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There were quite a few non-white victims. If that was his target, he did a poor job.
Well this was an outdoor concert in...Las Vegas so I'm sure there were some non-whites there. But the profile of a county music fan is being a God fearin', conservative whitey.

Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
30109 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:38 pm to
I am of the belief it's the simplest of explanations. He was a nut that wanted to cause as much mayhem as possible.

However, for anyone on the left or in the media to claim how unseemly it is to speculate as to the murderer's motive or bent is laughable. Or to point out the difference in coverage if the victims were of a different segment of society. THAT, in my opinion, is what is driving the chatter of those of us on the right.
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