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buckeye_vol
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re: Why haven't we heard what Paddock's political beliefs are yet?
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However, for anyone on the left or in the media to claim how unseemly it is to speculate as to the murderer's motive or bent is laughable.
Well the criticisms, at toward on this board and the little bit I've seen in the media, isn't really criticizing general speculation because with the natural tendency to want answers, but don't have evidence, all we can do is speculate about answers.

The problem is people are going beyond speculation, and drawing conclusions, absolute ones at that. We don't have near enough information to draw any conclusions.
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Or to point out the difference in coverage if the victims were of a different segment of society. THAT, in my opinion, is what is driving the chatter of those of us on the right.
And what differences in coverage are they discussing? Besides 9/11, I can't think of an attack that got more coverage. And this situation there is such limited information about the shooter, that aspect they would typically cover can't be covered without more information.


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cave canem
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re: Why haven't we heard what Paddock's political beliefs are yet?
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I mean, they use other things too. Bombs, cars etc.

You can look it up, myself, I don't really differentiate.


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re: Why haven't we heard what Paddock's political beliefs are yet?
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I mean, if you're playing the percentages from what history tells us, he's much more likely to be a right wing nutcase than a left wing one.






are you always this stupid with facts and numbers assclown? you got owned by me the last time i proved you wrong with a link on % of terror deaths in this country by islam and here you go again. I am not going to waste my time on you this time since you ran away like a pussy and could not man up when i proved your claims wrong. The left has been way more violent than the right. however i will give you one link...

read it and weep clown

there is around 748 links in that link to back my claim up.

and you sure do not want to say left wing governments are not more dangerous and deadly. Look up the top 10 worst killers/dictators. majority are left wing. Then run the numbers. it is not eve close.
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re: Why haven't we heard what Paddock's political beliefs are yet?
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If he's a Bernie supporter wouldn't he shoot up a Hilary related event? She's the one that fricked Bernie in the election. I mean, frickin right?


Not if he wanted to have a crowd to shoot at.



Dayum. That's impressively savage.


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EA6B
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Most 64 year old men would have a very small social media footprint

I can avow to that.

I’m 52 and have no such footprint.


Since you just typed this on a internet message board I hope you were not serious.


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texashorn
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re: Why haven't we heard what Paddock's political beliefs are yet?
I haven't heard his affiliation reported.

The Nevada governor and Secretary of State are Republicans but Clark County appears to be heavily Democrat.

I'd blame whichever party involved with which he was registered for not leaking it.

If already requested, maybe a news outlet is already on it but had to file suit because of government stonewalling, explaining the delay.


buckeye_vol
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. The left has been way more violent than the right.
They may be, but I don't know if that has actually ever been evaluated, nor is it possibly to accurately do it anyways. But I think juiceterry was being more specific to mass murders, but I don't know if he's even right about that.
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there is around 748 links in that link to back my claim up.
It's impressive how much work that person put into it, although a number of those aren't incidents of violence but incidents of threats, insults, or hateful wishes. And while randomly clicking the links, a lot of them were links to that same website or some moonbat website. So I'm not sure why he didn't link actual news articles instead.

Regardless, all that does is highlight a number of incidents of left-wing violence and/or idiocy. I really hope you don't actually think that this link supports this:
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The left has been way more violent than the right.
But it seems pretty clear that you do:
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however i will give you one link..

read it and weep clown

there is around 748 links in that link to back my claim up.
So I'm fascinated here. It appears that you're so confident that your link backs up your claim that the left is more violent than the right, that you had to hammer it home with the little "read it and weep clown" comment.

And since your so confident, can you please explain how a link with the intent to exclusively highlighting incidents on one side, somehow provides comparative evidence of the other side to determine which one commits more of those incidents?

If you told a person with no knowledge of Golf, that he/she needs to use major victories to determine whether Jack or Tiger is the GOAT golfer, and then third place has 11 (for context). Then you only gave that person a list of Tiger's 14 majors, do you think he/she could determine that Tiger was better than Jack? I'm sure that person would realize it's a lot, since we know nobody else had more than 11. So if they did conclude that, we would know that it's wrong because Jack had 18.

In hindsight, this golf major paragraph seems absolutely ridiculous to have written because it's so obvious, and it's a skill that young children posses.

So i'm fascinated how you could make such a claim so arrogantly, yet because you failed to even use a basic comparative number sense, you ended up not supporting your argument at all.

This may have been a one time thing with not even old enough for kindergarten level reasoning. But if I had to ever highlight an example of a one time Dunning–Kruger effect, I don't think one could get much better than this. It's such a perfect example, I'm not sure it's possible to make a better one up.
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buckeye_vol
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re: Why haven't we heard what Paddock's political beliefs are yet?
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I haven't heard his affiliation reported.
It was reported that he didn't have an affiliation.
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The Nevada governor and Secretary of State are Republicans but Clark County appears to be heavily Democrat.

This is true.
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I'd blame whichever party involved with which he was registered for not leaking it.
He's not registered with either party, but the information was provided 2 days ago.
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If already requested, maybe a news outlet is already on it but had to file suit because of government stonewalling, explaining the delay.
It was already provided and reported on by multiple news outlets 2 days ago.

Apparently there is something different about me, because I found it a lot easier to do a quick Google search and find the answer, then to actually try to come up with a bunch of reasons to answer a question, even though it has already been answered.


texashorn
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re: Why haven't we heard what Paddock's political beliefs are yet?
Thanks for your 500-word scolding. I don't give a damn what you think, but I'm glad I got a rise out of you.


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re: Why haven't we heard what Paddock's political beliefs are yet?
He gets REAL drunk.

And writes.....and writes...and writes...

Don't worry he will be back to apologize tomorrow for his blackout posting!


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re: Why haven't we heard what Paddock's political beliefs are yet?
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So I'm fascinated here. It appears that your so confident that your link backs up your claim that the left is more violent than the right, that you had to hammer it home with the little "read it and weep clown" comment.

And since your so confident, can you please explain how a link with the intent to exclusively highlighting incidents on one side, somehow provides comparative evidence of the other side to determine which one commits more of those incidents?

If you told a person with no knowledge of Golf, that he/she needs to use major victories to determine whether Jack or Tiger is the GOAT golfer, and then third place has 11 (for context). Then you only gave that person a list of Tiger's 14 majors, do you think he/she could determine that Tiger was better than Jack? I'm sure that person would realize it's a lot, since we know nobody else had more than 11. So if they did conclude that, we would know that it's wrong because Jack had 18.

In hindsight, this golf major paragraph seems absolutely ridiculous to have written because it's so obvious, and it's a skill that young children posses.

So i'm fascinated how you could make such a claim so arrogantly, yet because you failed to even use a basic comparative number sense, you ended up not supporting your argument at all.

This may have been a one time thing with not even old enough for kindergarten level reasoning. But if I had to ever highlight an example of a one time Dunning–Kruger effect, I don't think one could get much better than this. It's such a perfect example, I'm not sure it's possible to make a better one up.


This. Is. Gold.


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buckeye_vol
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re: Why haven't we heard what Paddock's political beliefs are yet?
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I don't give a damn what you think,
Good. And it's not about what either of us thinks, I was just pointing out that you post a lot of thoughts, when the answer was already available.

But I will say your thoughts were far more rational, and far closer to the actual answer than most.

I just don't understand why people don't take 5 seconds to see if the answer is already available.
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texag7
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re: Why haven't we heard what Paddock's political beliefs are yet?
I mean the left is more violent than the right. Just look at a recent election map and overlay it with a crime map.

Most of the heaviest murder and crime per capita rates are in Democratic strongholds


buckeye_vol
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re: Why haven't we heard what Paddock's political beliefs are yet?
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Don't worry he will be back to apologize tomorrow for his blackout posting!
The last time I was drunk was a couple of months ago, which is also the one time I felt I went overboard with my posting. So I felt obligated to apologize for going overboard, when I shouldn't have been drunkenly posting in the first place.


buckeye_vol
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re: Why haven't we heard what Paddock's political beliefs are yet?
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I mean the left is more violent than the right. Just look at a recent election map and overlay it with a crime map.

Most of the heaviest murder and crime per capita rates are in Democratic strongholds
Well I think we're specifically talking about violence related to political views. But you're probably right if we just looked at each violent crime and tracked the political affiliation of the perpetrators.

And while your method makes sense, and probably leads us to the correct conclusion on this case, we can't actually make a confident conclusion based on that alone. But it's probably good enough to draw general conclusions in our discussion.


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re: Why haven't we heard what Paddock's political beliefs are yet?
Why is this question framed as left vs right?

It should be framed as liberal vs conservative. Who is more violent? Liberals or conservatives?

I think that the historical answer is conservative.....hands down. Conservatives have always persecuted liberals down through the ages.


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re: Why haven't we heard what Paddock's political beliefs are yet?
Why does this event have anything to do with conservatives being more violent historically?? Huh? You dumbass


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re: Why haven't we heard what Paddock's political beliefs are yet?
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when I shouldn't have been drunkenly posting in the first place.


But we want to know how you really feel? You scared of your actual feelings?


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chickenpotpie
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re: Why haven't we heard what Paddock's political beliefs are yet?
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anyone ask what party Ted Bundy was in? what affiliation was John Wayne Gacy? did Ed Gein vote Republican?


Those are serial killers, not mass murderers. The motivations are very different between the two. No one asked about their politics, because politics does not matter to serial killers. The driving factor is sex & power. Their victims usually share a similar physical appearance, not ideology.


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chickenpotpie
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i'm more worried about what can America do for mental illness, how to get it out of the shadows and into the forefront as an actual disease worth really investing research and money into so we can start to stop shite like this from happening


I recommend we stop teaching liberalism in schools. Liberalism is the most prominent mental illness in the US today.


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