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re: Why aren't there more pro choice conservatives?
Posted on 5/19/17 at 10:39 am to AirFarce1
Posted on 5/19/17 at 10:39 am to AirFarce1
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Funny thing is that the people who are against abortion are usually also against birth control and sexual education.
What? Don't join in about things you don't understand or know. I am conservative an my wife and I practiced birth control regularly. And we provided sex education at home. We didn't need the government to do that for us, since their idea of what is right and good is usually at odds with what we think.
This post was edited on 5/19/17 at 10:40 am
Posted on 5/19/17 at 11:53 am to DawgsLife
Abortion is not free and no tax money goes towards it. Either offer proof or get off this talking point.
Posted on 5/19/17 at 11:55 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
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You pretty much shot your argument to Hell with this one sentence.
How. My sperm would be human beings if I used them to fertilize an egg. Do we punish people for killing sperm?
Posted on 5/19/17 at 11:56 am to Masterag
If she can live with killing her unborn child, so can I.
Just be honest what the choice is, something I haven't seen a single liberal be able to do.
The mental gymnastics they are willing to do to ignore science and avoid being honest about it is incredible.
Just be honest what the choice is, something I haven't seen a single liberal be able to do.
The mental gymnastics they are willing to do to ignore science and avoid being honest about it is incredible.
Posted on 5/19/17 at 12:16 pm to TheArrogantCorndog
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if you stab a pregnant woman to death, you're charged with two murders... why is that?
Because conservatives created this law. The Unborn Victims of Violence Act was introduced by Lindsey Graham (R-SC) and signed into law by George W. Bush.
Posted on 5/19/17 at 12:22 pm to llfshoals
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If she can live with killing her unborn child, so can I.
This is retarded.
Posted on 5/19/17 at 12:23 pm to Masterag
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Why aren't there more pro choice conservatives?
Because we don't believe in killing babies?
That was pretty simple to answer.
This post was edited on 5/19/17 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 5/19/17 at 12:26 pm to Masterag
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no tax money goes towards it
Posted on 5/19/17 at 12:29 pm to Masterag
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IMO, being pro life and against welfare are antithetical
Not really. It's about being accountable for your actions. Don't have money for a kid? Don't have one. Why should the taxpayers pay for the consequences of someone's actions?
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I believe women should be able to have an abortion up to a certain point, and I don't wanna pay for anybody else's kids. The two go hand in hand.
No they don't; you're setting up the false dilemma that if you're against abortion then you must be for welfare. How about personal accountability? Since when do we get to cut that out of the equation?
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If it were up to me, abortion and birth control would be free. I'd rather pay for that than pay for somebody's knuckleheads who will probably grow up to do the same shite.
I agree with you on the free birth control but not abortions. Preventing pregnancy is not the same as ending one, although democrats would have you believe both are totally acceptable methods of birth control.
Posted on 5/19/17 at 12:36 pm to ibldprplgld
quote:Not to mention that there are people (such as myself) who think "welfare" is a good thing, but don't think it is the responsibility of the government to provide it. It should come from yourself, first, then your family/friends, then your church or place of worship, then from charities and other non-profits who want to help. When the government offers you an almost unlimited supply of what you need to live, why would you work harder to do it yourself?
No they don't; you're setting up the false dilemma that if you're against abortion then you must be for welfare. How about personal accountability? Since when do we get to cut that out of the equation?
Posted on 5/19/17 at 12:42 pm to Masterag
There are.
Most of the people who get abortions are Christian and usually usually identify as conservative.
They just think their case is different and everyone else is a baby killer.
Most of the people who get abortions are Christian and usually usually identify as conservative.
They just think their case is different and everyone else is a baby killer.
This post was edited on 5/19/17 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 5/19/17 at 12:45 pm to DawgsLife
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Aren't any laws a form of intrusion?
Yes.
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If you are against government intrusion, shouldn't you be against welfare?
Maybe I wasn't clear. I am against welfare.
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I would think you would be against all taxes, or do you love your government intrusions?
Again, for clarity, I am against taxation.
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I was not speaking to the legality of abortion. I was speaking to your statement of government intrusion.
There is no meaningful difference for my point.
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Are you saying (as insinuated by your post) that you are ok with the amount of government intrusion we now have as long as we don't have more, or are you saying you are against all government intrusion?
I'm against any government intrusion. That will never happen, but there's not reason to go the other way, either.
Posted on 5/19/17 at 12:45 pm to Masterag
quote:Of course it is. It's just legal murder.
aborting a fetus is not murder.
Posted on 5/19/17 at 12:47 pm to AlxTgr
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Of course it is. It's just legal murder.
This is why no one takes your position seriously.
Posted on 5/19/17 at 12:49 pm to DawgsLife
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As abortion should be.
That's your opinion.
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Isn't that the point he is making?
That's the point he's attempting, and failing to make.
Posted on 5/19/17 at 12:56 pm to SSpaniel
No Link?
That's what I thought. Either put up or stfu
That's what I thought. Either put up or stfu
Posted on 5/19/17 at 12:59 pm to ibldprplgld
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How about personal accountability? Since when do we get to cut that out of the equation?
Since we hand out money for having kids
Posted on 5/19/17 at 1:00 pm to mahdragonz
Where are you getting the political party breakdown of women who have abortions?
Posted on 5/19/17 at 1:06 pm to Masterag
A person (you) who's moral compass is their own intelligence/conscience can justify anything. The only thing they struggle with is the fact that in this case everyone should be able to define their own morality and freely live by it.
Imagine that!
Imagine that!
Posted on 5/19/17 at 1:09 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Conservatives who don't support believe it is [murder]. Next.
quote:Not necessarily. It depends on what law they are referring to. As a Christian, I believe abortion to be murder according to God's law even though it is not technically considered murder according to the law of the U.S.
That's because they're ignorant. Next
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