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re: Why are you where you are on immigration
Posted on 3/3/17 at 5:57 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Posted on 3/3/17 at 5:57 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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leftist friends, there's a sense that some (or most) of the people on the right who are very fired up about immigration are so essentially because they don't want the country or their community to become less white.
Retarded. Swallowed the lib talking point bogeyman pill.
I am where I am on immigration because my wife is an immigrant and I'm living it. We also live in a border state. Citizenship and residency are not to be cheapened by giving them away. You must warn residency. You sure as hell must earn citizenship if you're an immigrant.
I'm sure you would be pissed if LSU gave a football scholly to 5 kids that broke in to Tiger Stadium and stood on the sidelines until game day rolled around. "They've been camping here for months on the field and watering the grass, they really want to be on the team."
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Posted on 3/3/17 at 6:07 pm to Draconian Sanctions
I have a very personal story of watching my father's small business fail due to competition with illegal workers.
In addition, I think multiculturalism is unsustainable, unstable, and is only a transition period between either Balkanization, or one culture absorbing the others as "flavor".
I also think cultural sameness is important for a stable, functional society.
In addition, I think multiculturalism is unsustainable, unstable, and is only a transition period between either Balkanization, or one culture absorbing the others as "flavor".
I also think cultural sameness is important for a stable, functional society.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 6:16 pm to cokebottleag
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In addition, I think multiculturalism is unsustainable, unstable, and is only a transition period between either Balkanization, or one culture absorbing the others as "flavor".
I also think cultural sameness is important for a stable, functional society.
This is wrong. Every single mass immigration into the US has resulted in complete assimilation from second generation on. The American culture/way of life almost forces it upon them.
Cultural sameness is an inevitability in America. Unless you start to reject that fact and push those that are ripe for culturalization away with crazy nationalism bullshite.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 6:20 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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When I talk about immigration with my liberal or leftist friends, there's a sense that some (or most) of the people on the right who are very fired up about immigration are so essentially because they don't want the country or their community to become less white. Sometimes "racist" is used, sometimes it's not.
That you come on here and speak on a topic that is not the issue makes you a tool of a state.
Illegal is the would we are using. guest worker programs can work and a long path to citizenship.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 6:25 pm to Draconian Sanctions
The old rules worked fine. Demand assimilation per American values/Constitutional Principles, let the good ones in...turn the bad ones back. Just like you do in your home.
Those who come here to carve out a version of the Country they left (in flames) should understand just WHY we don't want to import...what they are fleeing. Seems like they would; but we should hear it from their lips...when they take The Oath.
Those who come here to carve out a version of the Country they left (in flames) should understand just WHY we don't want to import...what they are fleeing. Seems like they would; but we should hear it from their lips...when they take The Oath.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 6:31 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Legal immigration .... fine, if they earn and pay their way
Illegal immigration..... BAD
Illegal immigration..... BAD
Posted on 3/3/17 at 6:41 pm to Remote Controlled
Yes, that's exactly what I said. You just used different words.
America has had waves of immigration.
America's immigration waves have been assimilated, we don't still have pockets that speak polish or German as a first language and celebrate only those holidays. We have an American culture which dominated and absorbed those as "flavor".
Cultural sameness is inevitable in an area with multiple cultures. Either they divide into two areas, or they merge. Periods and regions with multiple cultures at a given time are inevitably chaotic and violent until cultural unity of a region, either through geographic division or cultural assimilation is completed.
America has had waves of immigration.
America's immigration waves have been assimilated, we don't still have pockets that speak polish or German as a first language and celebrate only those holidays. We have an American culture which dominated and absorbed those as "flavor".
Cultural sameness is inevitable in an area with multiple cultures. Either they divide into two areas, or they merge. Periods and regions with multiple cultures at a given time are inevitably chaotic and violent until cultural unity of a region, either through geographic division or cultural assimilation is completed.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 6:49 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Because I live in Texas
Posted on 3/3/17 at 6:57 pm to cokebottleag
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In addition, I think multiculturalism is unsustainable, unstable, and is only a transition period between either Balkanization
You insinuated that there is no cultural assimilation, only multiculturalism. Balkanization implies zero patience for assimilation, and a hope for cultural division.
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Periods and regions with multiple cultures at a given time are inevitably chaotic and violent until cultural unity of a region, either through geographic division or cultural assimilation is completed.
It's been pretty unchaotic and non-violent here in Southern California, which has been the epicenter of illegal immigration for decades. Second and third geners assimilate nicely. Regardless of perception.
I think your perception is askew.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 6:58 pm to Draconian Sanctions
I want my H1B visa Indian baw who paying taxes out his arse and doing it right have an easier road to citizenship then a dreamer
Posted on 3/3/17 at 6:59 pm to Draconian Sanctions
I've seen how Paris went from the greatest city on the planet to needing machine gun toting military at every conceivable mid to high profile spot in the city.
You should see them protecting the Jewish Marais during schooldays and on temple and Jewish holidays. There is a reason Le Pen is going to be elected or nearly elected in one of the most liberal nations on the planet.
Islam is the worst
You should see them protecting the Jewish Marais during schooldays and on temple and Jewish holidays. There is a reason Le Pen is going to be elected or nearly elected in one of the most liberal nations on the planet.
Islam is the worst
This post was edited on 3/3/17 at 7:00 pm
Posted on 3/3/17 at 7:08 pm to SirWinston
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I've seen how Paris went from the greatest city on the planet to needing machine gun toting military at every conceivable mid to high profile spot in the city.
So we should restrict GC and Visa holders that have already been vetted?
According to your account, Paris has reverted to pre-nazi occupation security levels.
I highly doubt that.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 7:12 pm to Celery
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You mean taking care of the poor, hungry, needy and persecuted?
Jesus never taught that these things should be mandated by the state.
There's absolutely nothing stopping you as an individual from taking care of those same people here. Charity begins at home.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 7:12 pm to Remote Controlled
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So we should restrict GC and Visa holders that have already been vetted?
Yes.
Many of the 911 scum held Visas.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 7:16 pm to Remote Controlled
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Let's be honest, none of you gave a shite about illegal immigrants until it came to your doorstep and became a convenient talking point for the right wing echo chamber.
I don't know about talking points or echo chambers.
But you're right. I didn't give a shite about it until it came to my doorstep...on 11 September, 2001. Then I became VERY concerned about it.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 7:21 pm to Dale51
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Many of the 911 scum held Visas.
And they came from Saudi Arabia.
A country that isn't on the ban list.
Yet another reason why this is just made up bullshite to suit the masses, and stir up anti-immigration fervor.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 7:26 pm to Draconian Sanctions
illegal immigration means they did not learn civics. John Adams. Hamilton. All of it.
I don't want people here who are not indoctrinated to our values.
I am certain that AA's and teenagers were pushed out by happy smiling stronger men from Latin America and Mexico. I used to do the exact same work when I was 12 and 14 that Latinos now do.
There are a million or two AA's in the slammer; most of that is due to not finding gainful employment.
I don't want people here who are not indoctrinated to our values.
I am certain that AA's and teenagers were pushed out by happy smiling stronger men from Latin America and Mexico. I used to do the exact same work when I was 12 and 14 that Latinos now do.
There are a million or two AA's in the slammer; most of that is due to not finding gainful employment.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 7:26 pm to Remote Controlled
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And they came from Saudi Arabia. A country that isn't on the ban list.
Thats neither here not there. They may have been Saudi citizens but arrived from Pakistan. The point of the ban is to add extra vetting to unstable nations where terrorism is flourishing.
This factor is not "made up bullshite".
Posted on 3/3/17 at 7:32 pm to Dale51
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Why are you where you are on immigration
Because I believe in upholding The Law. Had this been adhered to we would never be in this quagmire to begin with. I we don't want to ahere to a Law then get rid of it.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 7:32 pm to Dale51
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They may have been Saudi citizens but arrived from Pakistan.
Who is not on the list either...
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Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen
No Pakistan on that list.
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This factor is not "made up bullshite".
Yes. Yes it is.
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Thats neither here not there
Nice work Dale.
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