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Who keeps the media in check?
Posted on 7/2/17 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 7/2/17 at 4:24 pm
Clark 14 made the point in another thread that "it's important that no president is given free reign over the country. each needs to be called on the carpet if a disagreement exists"
So where is that same oversight of the press?
I am as pro-First Amendment as a person can be. Freedom of speech and freedom of the press are the backbones of this nation. But what happens when the media lies? Where is that same accountability?
So where is that same oversight of the press?
I am as pro-First Amendment as a person can be. Freedom of speech and freedom of the press are the backbones of this nation. But what happens when the media lies? Where is that same accountability?
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Posted on 7/2/17 at 4:28 pm to EKG
Trump. He keeps them in check. 
Posted on 7/2/17 at 4:30 pm to EKG
Donald Jesus Trump
Posted on 7/2/17 at 4:31 pm to EKG
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am as pro-First Amendment as a person can be.
The first amendment says that you can say things but it doesn't say that you can say whatever you want. If you use your speech to undermine the American people then it's treason and should be punished as such.
Posted on 7/2/17 at 4:33 pm to EKG
Personally I think the press should be held to a higher standard than the general population. It should be easier to sue them for defamation, not harder. Their job and responsibility is to tell the truth, not tell people what to think by bending everything to their extremely homogeneous left wing world view
This post was edited on 7/2/17 at 4:37 pm
Posted on 7/2/17 at 4:33 pm to EKG
It really is the question that needs to be at the forefront these days.
Our forefathers did not anticipate the press becoming an ally and propagandist for a faction of the government that would be so insidiously promoting socialist/communist values.
Our forefathers did not anticipate the press becoming an ally and propagandist for a faction of the government that would be so insidiously promoting socialist/communist values.
Posted on 7/2/17 at 4:36 pm to EKG
I'd argue that markets are the means which would control the press. At least that is the neoliberal argument, and one that we apply freely to other industries. In that sense, there is no reason for the media to change as the antagonistic relationship with Trump has increased the consumption of the media he opposes, so much so that the eventual death of print media might be delayed somewhat.
A profit driven media will go after whatever sells, and if what sells for them is an antagonistic relationship with Trump, then they have no reason to change.
A profit driven media will go after whatever sells, and if what sells for them is an antagonistic relationship with Trump, then they have no reason to change.
Posted on 7/2/17 at 4:38 pm to crazy4lsu
Excellent point ...I agree the market is one very effective mechanism.
Posted on 7/2/17 at 4:41 pm to prplngldtigr
In this case it doesn't seem like it would be an effective mechanism for most people on this board. I personally don't mind an antagonistic relationship between the government and the media. The problem for me is that same antagonism isn't equally applied. Honestly the most critical paper of the government has been The Intercept, which has continually attacked Obama era foreign policies.
Posted on 7/2/17 at 4:42 pm to EKG
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So where is that same oversight of the press?
We are the Oversight. Either we watch, read or listen or we stop, they get the message sooner or later. It ain't over yet by a long shot but if we persist they will call uncle
Posted on 7/2/17 at 4:42 pm to prplngldtigr
It's a question to which I genuinely do not know the answer; I wasn't trying to be sardonic.
I'm aware of the FCC's role when it comes to issues like Janet Jackson's Super Bowl halftime wardrobe malfunction, but I'm referring to daily speculation, innuendo, and lies, packaged as news. Some of this stuff doesn't cross the line into libel and slander (though I'd argue that much of it does), but I'm unaware of any kind of formal answerability for promoting false propaganda.
I'm aware of the FCC's role when it comes to issues like Janet Jackson's Super Bowl halftime wardrobe malfunction, but I'm referring to daily speculation, innuendo, and lies, packaged as news. Some of this stuff doesn't cross the line into libel and slander (though I'd argue that much of it does), but I'm unaware of any kind of formal answerability for promoting false propaganda.
Posted on 7/2/17 at 4:44 pm to EKG
Media has admitted that they are all entertainment.
The Russia narrative - admitting it's a hoax but sells to the public.
So keeping the media in check?
That's like asking, who keeps Transformers movie in check?
It's up to Joe public to consume or not to consume crap.
The Russia narrative - admitting it's a hoax but sells to the public.
So keeping the media in check?
That's like asking, who keeps Transformers movie in check?
It's up to Joe public to consume or not to consume crap.
Posted on 7/2/17 at 4:48 pm to crazy4lsu
I 100% agree with what you are saying. I prefer an antagonistic relationship , as well, but as you stated it is not evenly applied . Therein lies the problem and the need for a correction . The free market would be an option immediately accessible , but as EKG points out , the way the media goes about this is very very clever and in my opinion sinister if not illegal in terms of liable or slander.
Ultimately , I think a large scale failure and some egg on their faces would help. Public humiliation could help and perhaps that's the option the president is pursuing . Painful as it may be hahahhha
Ultimately , I think a large scale failure and some egg on their faces would help. Public humiliation could help and perhaps that's the option the president is pursuing . Painful as it may be hahahhha
This post was edited on 7/2/17 at 4:49 pm
Posted on 7/2/17 at 4:48 pm to crazy4lsu
quote:
I'd argue that markets are the means which would control the press.
I think that's a great answer.
And I'd like to think you're right.
But it's darn tough for the market to be informed of what the accurate informational measuring stick looks like when lies are presented as facts.
I'm not suggesting the creation of some kind of governmental agency to monitor the press (the thought is both abhorrent and comical), but I don't think Americans should be characterized as tinfoil hat-wearing bumpkins for being overly skeptical of our lying media.
Posted on 7/2/17 at 4:50 pm to EKG
You two dudes get it . I agree with you both.
Posted on 7/2/17 at 4:51 pm to EKG
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Janet Jackson's Super Bowl halftime wardrobe malfunction,
That was fake news too.
There was no malfunction, her wardrobe was designed to show her breast and it was part of the show to have Timberlake pull the removable part off
Posted on 7/2/17 at 4:55 pm to crazy4lsu
If it was an industry that relied strictly on profits.
It's serves such as unique and influential purpose there is never a lack of personal financiers, from god knows where, to keep pumping money regardless
It's serves such as unique and influential purpose there is never a lack of personal financiers, from god knows where, to keep pumping money regardless
This post was edited on 7/2/17 at 4:56 pm
Posted on 7/2/17 at 4:59 pm to Lsuchs
Also an excellent point...with that said , what mechanism would work to counter?
This really is such a great question . The media has lost their way and is now no longer the watchdog of the American people, but instead it's a branch of the left wing movement.
Damn sure is interesting stuff , although frightening.
This really is such a great question . The media has lost their way and is now no longer the watchdog of the American people, but instead it's a branch of the left wing movement.
Damn sure is interesting stuff , although frightening.
Posted on 7/2/17 at 5:01 pm to prplngldtigr
quote:
Excellent point ...I agree the market is one very effective mechanism.
Brian Williams.
Lied and will never get back to where he was.
Posted on 7/2/17 at 5:23 pm to LSU alum wannabe
Kinda goes to my assertion that egg on the face and humiliation may be necessary. The media has to be so ridiculed for their behavior that it becomes impossible for them to persist under the current agenda.
Brian Williams became a joke and they couldn't keep him in place AND maintain the facade of truth in reporting .
Hell, the left's playbook (Rules for Radicals) speaks to this tactic . Turnabout is fair play.
Brian Williams became a joke and they couldn't keep him in place AND maintain the facade of truth in reporting .
Hell, the left's playbook (Rules for Radicals) speaks to this tactic . Turnabout is fair play.
This post was edited on 7/2/17 at 5:27 pm
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