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re: Who is legally in charge in Ukraine?
Posted on 3/4/14 at 3:34 pm to LSURussian
Posted on 3/4/14 at 3:34 pm to LSURussian
He has revealed himself as a Ron Paul Troll, when all else fails mention the Fed.
Isolationism is not a foreign policy, it is a complete lack of a foreign policy.
Isolationism is not a foreign policy, it is a complete lack of a foreign policy.
This post was edited on 3/4/14 at 3:35 pm
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Posted on 3/4/14 at 3:34 pm to doubleb
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I hope you agree that what Russia did is worse than what we did, but maybe you don't.
ST has said in unambiguous terms that what the US & west has done there is far worse fwiw
This post was edited on 3/4/14 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 3/4/14 at 3:37 pm to TWD7105
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At the same time you have to understand why Russia wouldn't take kindly to the US trying to subvert Ukrainian politics. We want to have those gas pipelines under western control, we want NATO in Ukraine, we want Ukraine to be owned by the western central banking hegemony. These things would be terrible for Russia. We must be imperialistic when it come to foreign policy, our economy is dependent on it. And Russia isn't?
There it is. Just listened to Cavuto interview the President of Georgia; that dude knows the score.
Said that the Crimea is full of shale; and that American interest had been working with them to develop that resource. Ukraine is one of Russia's main purchases of energy; Ukraine becomes independent and also a competitor with Vlad, if they get that shale.
Follow the money. Of course, money is freedom; in a worldly sense.
Posted on 3/4/14 at 3:37 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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At the same time you have to understand why Russia wouldn't take kindly to the US trying to subvert Ukrainian politics. We want to have those gas pipelines under western control, we want NATO in Ukraine, we want Ukraine to be owned by the western central banking hegemony. These things would be terrible for Russia. We must be imperialistic when it come to foreign policy, our economy is dependent on it.
So we have to ask Russia where we can help push forward democratic govts?
And how comne all of a sudden Russia is an economic giant that can dictate to us who our friends are?
We don't need NATO. All I said was what is wrong with promoting a democratic Ukraine? And if the only answer is that it might offend Russia than pardon me, I didn't think we gave Russia a veto over our foreign policy .
On second thought, maybe Obama did.
Posted on 3/4/14 at 3:39 pm to RCDfan1950
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There it is. Just listened to Cavuto interview the President of Georgia; that dude knows the score. Said that the Crimea is full of shale; and that American interest had been working with them to develop that resource. Ukraine is one of Russia's main purchases of energy; Ukraine becomes independent and also a competitor with Vlad, if they get that shale. Follow the money. Of course, money is freedom; in a worldly sense
Thanks for the info.
And of course we can seel them technology, and make a buck.
that's capitalism. That's what we are about. If we have to ask Russia where we can't bring our flag then we are in big trouble.
Posted on 3/4/14 at 3:39 pm to 90proofprofessional
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ST has said in unambiguous terms that what the US & west has done there is far worse fwiw
Not really.
I've just been clear that Russia is trying to protect its backyard and interests that have direct and close impact on their nation while we've been trying to manipulate a far away country in an effort to grow western controlled central banking, while getting NATO on the border of Russia, and gaining control of vital gas pipelines into Russia.
Posted on 3/4/14 at 3:40 pm to doubleb
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that's capitalism. That's what we are about. If we have to ask Russia where we can't bring our flag then we are in big trouble.
China and Russia are capitalists, too.
Posted on 3/4/14 at 3:40 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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Not really.
I've just been clear that Russia is trying to protect its backyard and interests that have direct and close impact on their nation while we've been trying to manipulate a far away country in an effort to grow western controlled central banking, while getting NATO on the border of Russia, and gaining control of vital gas pipelines into Russia.
So? Do you understand Foreign policy?
Posted on 3/4/14 at 3:41 pm to doubleb
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what is wrong with promoting a democratic Ukraine?
because it "subverts Ukrainian politics"
Posted on 3/4/14 at 3:41 pm to TWD7105
quote:Ron Paul, Alex Jones, Glenn Beck.
He has revealed himself as a Ron Paul Troll, when all else fails mention the Fed.
ST goes back to a previous screen name of mograyback. He has admitted that. He has not met a conspiracy theory he doesn't like.
Posted on 3/4/14 at 3:41 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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I've just been clear that Russia is trying to protect its backyard and interests that have direct and close impact on their nation while we've been trying to manipulate a far away country in an effort to grow western controlled central banking, while getting NATO on the border of Russia, and gaining control of vital gas pipelines into Russia.
They sure use strange tactics. Why can't they cozy up to the Ukraine, why can't they encourage them to stand on their own by helping them move toward independence?
Why do they have to take their territory? Why do they have to use their military?
You know why.
Posted on 3/4/14 at 3:42 pm to doubleb
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So we have to ask Russia where we can help push forward democratic govts?
We have no real interest in creating democratic governments, we've removed democratically elected regimes in favor of dictators. We only care about installing regimes that will be our puppet, democracy is not what we care about.
Posted on 3/4/14 at 3:42 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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Not really.
no?
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The US and western powers have been doing things behind the scenes in the Ukraine for a long time that are far worse that what Russia is doing now.
Posted on 3/4/14 at 3:43 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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We have no real interest in creating democratic governments, we've removed democratically elected regimes in favor of dictators. We only care about installing regimes that will be our puppet, democracy is not what we care about.
And Russia?
Posted on 3/4/14 at 3:44 pm to LSURussian
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Ron Paul, Alex Jones, Glenn Beck.
I've been clear on an number of occasions that I hate Alex Jones and think he's nothing but a clown, and you know this.
Glenn Beck is a crybaby.
And I align with Marxism over Anarchist capitalism.
Your ethics on here are disgraceful.
Posted on 3/4/14 at 3:45 pm to doubleb
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On second thought, maybe Obama did.
Both Obama and John Kerry...truly believe that human nature is changed. I have long said that Obama is the biggest fool sucking air if he really believes he can collapse the economy per the Cloward-Piven strategy...and that this nation will just float right on into a happy "fundamental transformation". When we have a 200 year history of die for our economic freedom. Make no mistake...you money is your freedom. The folk - minus the low-info crowd, useful idiots and dupes - know exactly what is coming down.
Maybe he'll learn something from this throwdown with Putin. And get to work to get this economy back to work, instead of playing the envy/class division card. He'll rot in hell for what happens, if he don't.
Posted on 3/4/14 at 3:46 pm to TWD7105
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And Russia?
Why are you so confused?
I'm not siding with Russia, I'm siding with truth.
Both the US and Russia are evil with global domination aspirations.
Posted on 3/4/14 at 3:46 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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And I align with Marxism over Anarchist capitalism.
Surprise Surprise
Posted on 3/4/14 at 3:47 pm to TWD7105
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Surprise Surprise
I'd bet my current bank account and all future earning that you have not the slightest clue about Marxism.
Posted on 3/4/14 at 3:47 pm to 90proofprofessional
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ST has said in unambiguous terms that what the US & west has done there is far worse fwiw
Not really.
quote:Motherfricking BOOM!!!!!!!!
The US and western powers have been doing things behind the scenes in the Ukraine for a long time that are far worse that what Russia is doing now.
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