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re: When did "exposing corruption" become "interfering with an election"??
Posted on 1/5/17 at 3:03 pm to UncleFestersLegs
Posted on 1/5/17 at 3:03 pm to UncleFestersLegs
quote:That happened to be P@ssword
So your complaint is there was no one at the RNC stupid enough to give up their password?
Posted on 1/5/17 at 3:04 pm to rumproast
When the corrupt bastards running the clown show got exposed and lost.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 3:07 pm to UncleFestersLegs
I didnt make a complaint. I answered the moronic question posed by the OP.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 3:11 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
If there was no corruption...how did the emails influence the election?
Posted on 1/5/17 at 3:12 pm to BBONDS25
I don't think the emails really influenced the election.
Doesn't mean the Russians didn't try.
Doesn't mean the Russians didn't try.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 3:20 pm to CaptainBrannigan
quote:
But the timing and means of releasing the email was meant to influence the narrative of the election.
So you think the timing and means of releasing the information was more important than the actual corruption exposed?? That seems like a purposeful disconnect from what actually influences people decisions.
Can you not see that fact?
Posted on 1/5/17 at 3:22 pm to BBONDS25
In the USA, we care about HOW damning information is collected. It is the principle behind due process of law.
An international criminal and fugitive from justice, Julian Assange, with an avowed vendetta against Hillary and Bill Clinton leaked hacked information with the express intention of embarrassing Hillary Clinton and hurting her campaign. Our intelligence agencies believe that the Russians gave that info to Assange as part of a campaign to destabilize our government and politics.
If anyone cannot see how this is a problem for the US, that person is without a clue. Doesn't matter if that info affected the outcome of the election or not. We should not allow the Russians or anyone else to interfere in our politics in such a direct way.
Of course Trump and the Trumpkins are paranoid about their lack of a popular mandate and want to make this Russian attack on our sovereignty about delegitmizing Trump's election. That isn't even germaine to this subject, imo. If Trump had any integrity, he would be leading the charge against the Russians now.
An international criminal and fugitive from justice, Julian Assange, with an avowed vendetta against Hillary and Bill Clinton leaked hacked information with the express intention of embarrassing Hillary Clinton and hurting her campaign. Our intelligence agencies believe that the Russians gave that info to Assange as part of a campaign to destabilize our government and politics.
If anyone cannot see how this is a problem for the US, that person is without a clue. Doesn't matter if that info affected the outcome of the election or not. We should not allow the Russians or anyone else to interfere in our politics in such a direct way.
Of course Trump and the Trumpkins are paranoid about their lack of a popular mandate and want to make this Russian attack on our sovereignty about delegitmizing Trump's election. That isn't even germaine to this subject, imo. If Trump had any integrity, he would be leading the charge against the Russians now.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 3:23 pm to BobBoucher
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What should be huge news is that a political party intentionally suppressed one candidate in favor of the one they want.
Not only that, but the collusion of the media in favor of one political party and the feeding of debate questions before a debate, among other things.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 3:23 pm to FooManChoo
quote:
When the Democrats are the ones hurt by it.
The MSM plays this game all the time, only they get leaked information from other sources against Republicans. No one bats an eye when CNN breaks a sex scandal.
This is when you know you're totally lost.
Of course MSM plays against conservatives. They also do, maybe to a less extent against liberals.
But what they truly don't expose is the real stuff. They purposely distract people from the truth by playing on smaller truths that create political/racial/class ect division.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 3:25 pm to Sleeping Tiger
Here.we.go.
What is some of the real stuff you are referring to??
What is some of the real stuff you are referring to??
Posted on 1/5/17 at 3:26 pm to rumproast
quote:I'm sure the Government of the Russian Federation did this in the interest of the American people. The Kremlin is known for its whistle-blowing activities that benefit Western voters.
You blow the whistle on somebody doing improper and bad stuff
arse.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 3:27 pm to Tigerdev
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End the bull shite faux confusion. It is embarrassing.
By all means, end the faux confusion..and the faux outrage while you're at it. The Russians didn't "hack the election".
Why isn't your confusion and outrage directed at the corruption that was exposed. Let me guess..that wouldn't benefit you so you don't care.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 3:28 pm to Dale51
Cant it be both? Not for you because you have no principles or shame. Only care about winning.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 3:29 pm to ForeLSU
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So if a burglar breaks into my house and discovers I'm a coke dealer, his crime is forgiven?
Better analogy would be that your house keeper discovers a bunch of drugs and turns your arse in. Most of the information was from people that had access. The democrats just blamed it on a fictional burglar.
This post was edited on 1/5/17 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 1/5/17 at 3:31 pm to Tigerdev
quote:Strong.
I guess when a foreign entity with a long history of committing espionage against the United States exposed the inner workings of one party's campaign and not the other? You guys aren't actually this daft are you? It benefitted you so you don't care. End the bullshite faux confusion. It is embarrassing.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 3:31 pm to Dale51
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So you think the timing and means of releasing the information was more important than the actual corruption exposed??
It certainly played a factor, if it would have all been thrown out at once, early on, it wouldn't have had the same impact. In addition, it was beneficial to have some ammo left in the chest to combat allegations made against Trump along the way. I don't doubt for a second that the flow of releases was intentional, but at the end of the day, Hillary was a shitty, shitty candidate and her defeat was her own doing.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 3:32 pm to Navytiger74
Still fighting the good fight brother.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 3:33 pm to Puck82
quote:So foreign state actors and/or independent hackers are more analogous to one's housekeeper than to a burglar?
Better analogy would be that your house keeper discovers a bunch of drugs and turns your arse in.
That's some interesting thinking, son.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 3:33 pm to GeorgeWest
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In the USA, we care about HOW damning information is collected. It is the principle behind due process of law...etc...etc
Non sequitur.
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