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re: What is your best proposal to fix the student debt crisis?
Posted on 8/24/22 at 2:53 pm to boogiewoogie1978
Posted on 8/24/22 at 2:53 pm to boogiewoogie1978
University of the US, a free, virtual, college.
Posted on 8/24/22 at 2:54 pm to Powerman
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You can't default on student loans which is what makes them different from other loans
How do you not know this?
You can default on private student loans
Posted on 8/24/22 at 2:54 pm to Powerman
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You can't default on student loans which is what makes them different from other loans
How do you not know this?
You can redefine default however you'd like. You are a leftist after all. But if you take out a loan and don't pay it back, you're in default. As I said, my son just paid off the final 11k on his student loans 3 weeks ago. They expected their money. How do you not know that?
This post was edited on 8/24/22 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 8/24/22 at 2:56 pm to troyt37
You seem irrationally mad for someone that doesn't understand my approach. It requires nothing of anyone other than the borrowers to fully repay their debt. Maybe you should read my initial post on the matter fully and stop stroking out over the keyboard.
Posted on 8/24/22 at 2:58 pm to troyt37
Maybe learn how lending institutions and different loans work after you clock out at Walmart bro.
Posted on 8/24/22 at 2:58 pm to boogiewoogie1978
Make the schools underwrite all the loans. No exceptions. This would be solved overnight. The costs. The bad degree programs. All of it.
Posted on 8/24/22 at 2:59 pm to jchamil
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You can't default on student loans which is what makes them different from other loans
How do you not know this?
You can default on private student loans
I would guess he was trying to say you can't discharge it in BK.
Posted on 8/24/22 at 3:00 pm to TeLeFaWx
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Make the schools underwrite all the loans. No exceptions. This would be solved overnight. The costs. The bad degree programs. All of it.
Also like this approach
And all courses shouldn't be the same cost based on credit hours alone
Posted on 8/24/22 at 3:00 pm to cwill
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marginal students to pursue a trade and not a marketing or gen studies degree.
Trade schools are for baws. Ain't no baw getting a gen studies degree
Posted on 8/24/22 at 3:08 pm to Powerman
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You seem irrationally mad for someone that doesn't understand my approach
Do I? My youngest son graduated less than 2 years ago, got a job, got a second job, sacrificed, saved, and did without so he could pay off his debt. I can't imagine why your "If you want to pay, pay, and if you don't want to pay, don't pay" approach grinds my gears.
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It requires nothing of anyone other than the borrowers to fully repay their debt. Maybe you should read my initial post on the matter fully and stop stroking out over the keyboard.
Then why not require them to pay their debt, instead of all the utter bullshite? I bet you'd be amazed at the amount of debt that would get paid off as soon as they realized they couldn't borrow any more money. They might even, gasp! have to do without the latest Playstation, or Lebron's latest shoes, or the latest iphone!
Posted on 8/24/22 at 3:10 pm to troyt37
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Do I? My youngest son graduated less than 2 years ago, got a job, got a second job, sacrificed, saved, and did without so he could pay off his debt. I can't imagine why your "If you want to pay, pay, and if you don't want to pay, don't pay" approach grinds my gears.
Read the whole post you idiot
I said they'd be required to pay in full but through increased tax liability until the debt is paid in full
Can you literally not read?
Posted on 8/24/22 at 3:11 pm to boogiewoogie1978
Stop propping up lending institutions, allow them to be discerning regarding what students they lend money to for what majors. Let lenders and schools go bankrupt, create a process for discharging student loan debt in bankruptcy.
Posted on 8/24/22 at 3:12 pm to Powerman
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Also like this approach
And all courses shouldn't be the same cost based on credit hours alone
Accountability is the only thing that will solve it. There are no exceptions.
Posted on 8/24/22 at 3:13 pm to boogiewoogie1978
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And "just pay back your loans" is not an option.
There is no crisis. Everyone is eligible for income based repayment plans. 10 percent of your income annually for 20 years, then the rest is forgiven.
The real issue with student loans is how they count towards debt to income ratios for real estate purchases when in deferment.
Posted on 8/24/22 at 3:14 pm to troyt37
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They might even, gasp! have to do without the latest Playstation, or Lebron's latest shoes, or the latest iphone!
You had me for a minute. You have to be a leftist troll trying to make right wingers look stupid. Only possible explanation.
*Slow clap
Posted on 8/24/22 at 3:15 pm to boogiewoogie1978
Cut college enrollment. 90% of these frickers shouldn't be in college
Posted on 8/24/22 at 3:16 pm to Powerman
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Maybe learn how lending institutions and different loans work after you clock out at Walmart bro.
Leftist twat. I've been having my money stolen in taxation by the government for 35 years now, since I was 16 years old. Many of those years I did bust my balls in blue collar jobs. I've done fairly well for the last 25 years, and sent enough money to the government to tell you to frick right off. I know very well how lending institutions and loans work. You borrow money, YOU PAY IT BACK. Most of the time with interest. I've paid every bill I've ever signed my name to, and I expect others to do the same.
Posted on 8/24/22 at 3:17 pm to Pvt Hudson
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Revert the loan process to the private sector. Make applicant prove “ability to repay” like they have to do with every other loan. Back the loan with either a co-signor or asset deposit. Show grades from previous year to prove viability.
Then all the kids studying for “African American History” or “Gender Studies” degrees would not be able to get loans……..
Posted on 8/24/22 at 3:19 pm to CreoleTigerEsq
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You're quite ignorant of how this works. There is no bankruptcy protection from student loans other than by proving a substantial hardship. Student loans haven't been dischargeable in bankruptcy since 2007.
True, but how do they enforce a loan in default? Do they go get a judgment? Is that judgment dischargeable in bankruptcy?
Posted on 8/24/22 at 3:19 pm to TeLeFaWx
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Accountability is the only thing that will solve it. There are no exceptions.
Probably one of the least understood and talked about things is the "corporate" college complex.
I put quotes around corporate because it applies to both public and private universities. It's probably one of the most powerful lobbying institutions in the country and almost no one is even aware of their existence.
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