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re: What do you think of when you think 'Catholicism'?
Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:57 pm to EthanL
Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:57 pm to EthanL
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I'm sorry, but you will have to show me in the bible where we are directed to show reverence to Mary, a humble servant of God who was given the inestimable privilege of carrying the life of his son, Jesus Christ, until he was born.
Sure. As soon as you show me where in the Bible it says the Bible is the sole rule of authority for Christians on matters of faith and morals.
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Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:59 pm to EthanL
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Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:59 pm to RollTide1987
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the only Church on earth with the authority to preach and interpret the Gospels.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:01 pm to Sentrius
Laughing doesn't make my words any less true. The Bible was a book written by Catholics, assembled by Catholics, and commissioned by Catholics. Why then would it not be a book that can only be interpreted and preached on by Catholics?
This post was edited on 9/23/14 at 11:02 pm
Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:01 pm to constant cough
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Do you even Holy Trinity
No I dont. If it can't be found in the bible, I don't practice. Isn't that amazing? A doctrine central to the faith, and not even the word 'Trinity', can be found in the bible. It is interesting that the ancient Egyptians, Assyrians, and Babylonians all had Triune Gods, and the nation of Israel was told that their God, was ONE God (First of the Ten Commandments)
When do you think the Trinity Dogma infiltrated Christianity.
Look up Council of Nicaea, 323 AD.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:03 pm to EthanL
I know don't feed the troll, don't feed the troll but I must feed him.
Well you admit she carried God's son. Then ask when she became 'the mother of God' ? I guess when she carried his son (the holy trinity). The Bible does not direct anyone to show Mary reverence but do you not revere those you came before or those that sacrificed?
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I'm sorry, but you will have to show me in the bible where we are directed to show reverence to Mary, a humble servant of God who was given the inestimable privilege of carrying the life of his son, Jesus Christ, until he was born. The references to her in the bible are few, but always her humility and meekness are highlighted. When did she become 'the mother of God'?
Well you admit she carried God's son. Then ask when she became 'the mother of God' ? I guess when she carried his son (the holy trinity). The Bible does not direct anyone to show Mary reverence but do you not revere those you came before or those that sacrificed?
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The apostle Peter, on whom you have built the Papacy, was a MARRIED MAN, yet you insist that an elite group of leaders, and Popes, supposedly descendants of Peter, remain unmarried. And you wonder why sexual deviation and perversion is scourging 'the faith'
Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:04 pm to EthanL
A church not led by men filed with the Holy Spirit, but rather led by men of the world, taking thw place of God, with worldly dogma of men.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:06 pm to EthanL
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the nation of Israel was told that their God, was ONE God (First of the Ten Commandments)
And yet Jesus says in John 10:30 - My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand. I and the Father are one. The Jews picked up stones again to stone Him.…
Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:08 pm to EthanL
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If it can't be found in the bible, I don't practice
I will pose this question to you as I did to the person above: Where in the Bible does it say that the Bible is a Christian's sole rule of authority on matters concerning faith and morals? If it's not in the Bible don't practice it, right?
Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:08 pm to EthanL
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When do you think the Trinity Dogma infiltrated Christianity.
Look up Council of Nicaea, 323 AD.
I'm a little fuzzy on my history, but (and I can't remember the term), wasn't a decree sent out at this time saying the trinity was accepted as Christian Dogma?
And are you asserting that the Church can't evolve on issues throughout time?
Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:08 pm to EthanL
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Look up Council of Nicaea, 323 AD.
325AD. And right, the Trinity has been agreed on by Christianity since 325AD and you sound like some danm Arian Heritic.
This post was edited on 9/23/14 at 11:09 pm
Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:11 pm to constant cough
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constant cough
Did read, upvote
Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:11 pm to Zamoro10
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I think of the Pope...
And that quote from Chaucer:
"As soon as a coin in the coffer rings, a soul from purgatory springs"
i thought johannes tetzel popularized this little rhyme. it was chaucer? source?
Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:12 pm to constant cough
Which is precisely why the Council of Nicea was called in 325 AD, to combat the Arian heresy that was streaking through Catholicism at that time. Arius asserted that the Son of God was a subordinate entity to God the Father. The Catholic Church was simply stating firmly what the Church's position on the relationship between God the Father and God the Son was. It established the doctrine of the Holy Trinity as well as gave us the Nicene Creed, telling the world what all Christians believe.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:12 pm to RollTide1987
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Sure. As soon as you show me where in the Bible it says the Bible is the sole rule of authority for Christians on matters of faith and morals
Sure. 2 Timothy 3:16,17, for starters.
Let me know when you've read it
Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:13 pm to RollTide1987
The Jews picked up stones again to stone Him....
What version of the Bible is this from. Weren't they all Jews except for the Roman soldiers and local rule?
What version of the Bible is this from. Weren't they all Jews except for the Roman soldiers and local rule?
Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:13 pm to Wild Thang
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I'm a little fuzzy on my history, but (and I can't remember the term), wasn't a decree sent out at this time saying the trinity was accepted as Christian Dogma?
He's probably not aware that the Orthodox also believe in the Trinity and that Mary is also a Saint in the East.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:17 pm to constant cough
quote:The church that broke away from the other churches of it's time and had declared itself the only true church ever since.
What do you think of when you think 'Catholicism'?
Not true, but that's what they say.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:18 pm to EthanL
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Sure. 2 Timothy 3:16,17, for starters.
Let me know when you've read it
I have read it. Amen! I agree with every bit of it.
Ultimately, however, your case is a fruitless one since 2 Timothy 3:16-17 merely says that Scripture is profitable or useful for teaching, not that it is mandatory for teaching every individual point of theology. A hammer is profitable or useful for driving nails, but that does not mean that nails can be driven only by hammers (as anyone can testify who is lucky enough to have a nail gun or unfortunate enough to have had to drive a nail with a random blunt object which was at hand).
Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:18 pm to EthanL
Didn't edit my last post, so this is a continuation.
The apostles and early priests/Popes were married. I believe (yes it is my belief; no scientific data on this one) the reason this changed was because it is harder to be a good shepherd to your flock when you have a favorite sheep. As a husband and father I have more concern over what is happening to my family than my work. A married Priest would have the same feelings. I agree with non-married Priests because they do not have the family distractions that I have and can focus on the congregation.
Catholics do not pray to Saints instead of God. We pray to Saints in addition to God. This is the same as you or me talking to a mutual friend and asking them to put in a good word for us. I'm sure you understand all of this but it does not fit your agenda and I'm fine with that. Enjoy your life and I will enjoy mine.
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--The apostle Peter, on whom you have built the Papacy, was a MARRIED MAN, yet you insist that an elite group of leaders, and Popes, supposedly descendants of Peter, remain unmarried. And you wonder why sexual deviation and perversion is scourging 'the faith'
The apostles and early priests/Popes were married. I believe (yes it is my belief; no scientific data on this one) the reason this changed was because it is harder to be a good shepherd to your flock when you have a favorite sheep. As a husband and father I have more concern over what is happening to my family than my work. A married Priest would have the same feelings. I agree with non-married Priests because they do not have the family distractions that I have and can focus on the congregation.
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-The dogmas are endless. From transubstantiation to directing prayers to 'Saints' instead of God. I bet the bible is never opened up at all.
Catholics do not pray to Saints instead of God. We pray to Saints in addition to God. This is the same as you or me talking to a mutual friend and asking them to put in a good word for us. I'm sure you understand all of this but it does not fit your agenda and I'm fine with that. Enjoy your life and I will enjoy mine.
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