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re: What can the USA really do to eliminate ISIS?

Posted on 9/3/14 at 4:09 pm to
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 9/3/14 at 4:09 pm to
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Anybody know where we could find somebody like that?



Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23711 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 4:12 pm to
All we have to do is go old school on them. Put a price on the head of Mr Decapitator. Ten Mill for proof of identity and dead or alive. Plus sanctuary in the US.

He won't be sleeping very well any time soon. Say 50 Mill dead or alive for the heads of ISIS and Al Qaeda. It would be less expensive than putting US boots on the ground and none of them will be alive a year from now. THIS would put the literal fear of Allah in them.
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Posted by Stingray
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 9/3/14 at 4:14 pm to
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Maybe we could install a strongman in Iraq. Some really vicious bastard whose self-preservation instincts would lead him to both suppress extremist religious movements and act as a barrier to the expansion of Iranian influence. We'd probably need a Sunni Muslim whose ideological background is primarily Arab nationalist rather than Islamic fundamentalist. 

Anybody know where we could find somebody like that?


If we had the courage to do the right thing, WE could have been the strong man that Iraq needed.

I see that fat bastard Chris Christie as a perfect imperial governor.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 9/3/14 at 4:16 pm to
Saddam would still be in power probably with US backing today if he had left Kuwait and the Saudis be. He got greedy and it cost him everything.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
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Posted on 9/3/14 at 4:31 pm to
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Saddam would still be in power probably with US backing today if he had left Kuwait and the Saudis be. He got greedy and it cost him everything.
Not really. We can blame Cheney / W Bush for that one. There is a reason Bush 41 left him there.
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
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Posted on 9/3/14 at 4:44 pm to
Spilling more blood in the Middle East will only help their cause and grow their number. The best thing the US can do is completely detach from the region, work on becoming energy independent, and invest all that war money on defense here at home.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 9/3/14 at 4:50 pm to
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Spilling more blood in the Middle East will only help their cause and grow their number. The best thing the US can do is completely detach from the region, work on becoming energy independent, and invest all that war money on defense here at home.


This.
Posted by Paluka
One State Over
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 9/3/14 at 4:51 pm to
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I see that fat bastard Chris Christie as a perfect imperial governor.


He could wear one of those old chinese robes or moo-moo's!
Posted by WhoDatGreenBeret
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2013
546 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 5:49 pm to
I think you'd find the number of people who want an Islamic caliphate state stretches well beyond where ISIS is.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 5:52 pm to
The simple answer is no. We could degrade their capabilities, but that's it.

Do you think we will ever be able to go into the ME and kill off every Jihadi? Does trying to get us to a place of peace or do we just inspire more hate and end up on a continuous treadmill of war?
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 9/3/14 at 5:53 pm to
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We're not talking about the War on Terror, we're talking about ISIS specifically. They have a leader hierarchy, infrastructure, laws, land, a military, and borders. They are essentially a nation.


Have they attacked the US?
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
53821 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 5:59 pm to
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BigPapi21 Yea, but how many innocent people will we be responsible for murdering?


Wo cares? I never understand why this matters to people. In the US we are capable of policing ourselves. Sometimes we have a religious netball kill people and when we do we hunt them down and prosecute the.

Muslims are either incapable of having a civilization or government that can police themselves or, and this is what I think, they don't care if Muslim extremist are killing western ears so they overlook it.

The answer is to start killing Muslims until the good ones, if there are any, get tired of dying and realize that the bad ones are goin to cause the to become extinct. If you have to kill 50-60 million Muslims before they get the message who cares.

The answer is to just start irradiating Muslims from the face of the earth and they will either get the message or all die and either way is a win.

It's actually pretty simple.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 9/3/14 at 6:01 pm to
Some people just need killing. That's the way I see it.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 6:22 pm to
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We have to rain down death on them on a level not seen since the firebomb raids of Dresden or Tokyo in WWII.


So you want to kill a lot of civilians in the ME...many of whom have been subjugated by ISIS? This isn't a war with a nation state with a supporting population. Your idea would very likely though rally the people of the ME to ISIS.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125398 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 6:25 pm to
You suck at making threads.

Two shitty ones two days in a row.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58113 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 6:27 pm to
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but how many innocent people will we be responsible for murdering?



Wo cares?


Awesome. Glad we really have no leaders as stupid is this.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35632 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 6:33 pm to
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The way to do this is with our special forces. Give then broad left and right limits and loose ROE and emplace them with the Kurds and Iraqi military forces in Baghdad. Whatever air support they need give it to them and watch how fast this gets resolved. Push these guys back into Syria then GTFO.
This would be the simple solution if the goal was to eliminate them.

As to the OP, what can the USA really do to eliminate ISIS? First, stop funding them. Second, tell the elite to go frick themselves, we're not going to do their dirty work anymore.

Any questions?
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58113 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 6:34 pm to
And here comes the wise one.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 9/3/14 at 7:44 pm to
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Spilling more blood in the Middle East will only help their cause and grow their number. The best thing the US can do is completely detach from the region, work on becoming energy independent, and invest all that war money on defense here at home.



I could get on board with this. But you have to be 100% committed to making this work. The only way it will is if your willing to completely shutdown the illegals crossing the border. Totally change policy and round up and deport every illegal we can find. This could easily be done by cutting off any benefits or programs for illegals. No drivers license, no healthcare, nothing. This would stem the tide a lot because their would be little reason to come here.
Posted by tigerbait3488
River Ridge
Member since Dec 2007
10450 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 8:03 pm to
I agree with Old Hellen Yeller.....or just make the whole Middle East a parking lot. Sometimes the good have to suffer with the bad.
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