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re: Was Malaysia Arlines flight MH370 a terrorist attack?
Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:16 am to Jbird
Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:16 am to Jbird
Total electrical failure, or whoever was flying it turned everything off.
Did you see this link?
If some of the passenger's phones are still online, it should be relatively easy for the phone company to track down which cell tower they're connected to.
Did you see this link?
If some of the passenger's phones are still online, it should be relatively easy for the phone company to track down which cell tower they're connected to.
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:17 am to son of arlo
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Just heard a guy on Faux News speculate it could have been an "Egyptair Allah Ackbar" nosedive into the water. If it went down in Vietnam, it might take a while to find it. There are Americans who went down there in the 60s/70s and have never been found.
makes no sense, sense 9/11 the pilots open the flight deck door for nothing, so only if somehow they tricked them to open the door. (I suspect this would be reported to ATC) or if a pilot was somehow recruited as a terrorist, I don't think this can happen.
Plus I would think that they would have seen something suspicious on the radar.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:18 am to catholictigerfan
quote:Fact.
but there are hundreds of possibilities
quote:Not sure about the 777, seems to me aircraft battery power or a CIPS still powers the transpondr, could be wrong on that.
loss of power to the engines, which would cause a loss of power to the transponders. (Transponders run on generators powered either by the APU (usually not used in flight) and the engine generators, I don't think they can run on battery only)
quote:Highly unlikely digital and analog instruments with as a minimum dual redundancy.
Instrument failures which would lead to higher risk for pilot error.
quote:Fact
list could go on
quote:Never made such claim. This is a mystery no doubt.
sure terrorism could be a cause but it is wrong to say that it must be the caused based on the information known so far.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:18 am to son of arlo
quote:
If some of the passenger's phones are still online, it should be relatively easy for the phone company to track down which cell tower they're connected to.
that's so crazy! How does the FCC/INTERPOL/CIA go about getting those? do they target every passenger on board until they have successfully found one?
Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:19 am to LSUGrrrl
quote:Who knows, this seems to get curiouser and curiouser by the day.
Who was the Iranian asylum seeker who was on the flight? Was he using one of the stolen passports? Important new info or coincidence?
Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:19 am to son of arlo
quote:Weird stuff isn't it?
If some of the passenger's phones are still online, it should be relatively easy for the phone company to track down which cell tower they're connected to.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:20 am to catholictigerfan
quote:Why not?
or if a pilot was somehow recruited as a terrorist, I don't think this can happen.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:21 am to son of arlo
everything is speculation right now arlo, your guess is as good as mine. To say it must have been terrorism before they can even find the plane is off base.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:22 am to Jbird
quote:
Why not?
maybe it could have as I said it is all speculation right now.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:22 am to Jbird
There was one other case where an airplane just went missing. The Sq Commander of the 76th Squadron at Cairo West just never came back after a night sortie. The Egyptians concluded he'd just plunked his phantom in the Nile, and quit looking for him. I bet he defected to Libya. 
Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:23 am to catholictigerfan
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everything is speculation right now arlo,
Oh I know. We're all just guessing as to what could have happened.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:24 am to son of arlo
quote:Sold the antique to the Iranians they need all the parts they can get.
I bet he defected to Libya.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:25 am to son of arlo
quote:Yep, from the aviation standpoint we are inquisitive types.
everything is speculation right now arlo,
Oh I know. We're all just guessing as to what could have happened
Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:26 am to Jbird
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Highly unlikely digital and analog instruments with as a minimum dual redundancy.
go look up the air france flight from 6 years ago I think. The pilots lost air speed information and there were some issues with the altitude indicators which caused an inexperienced pilot (first officer) to pull back on the stick to try and gain altitude, which eventually caused them to lose speed (which they lost information on) and the planed stalled and eventually crashed in the atlantic. They went from about 38000 feet to the ocean in 3 1/2 minuets.
Speed and Altitude need sensors to work if those sensors fail you lose that information, if not handled property than pilot error could lead to a crash.
Note: even if you lose these in flight all you have to do it keep about the same engine power and level the wings to keep the plane in the air and flying normally.
This post was edited on 3/11/14 at 9:28 am
Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:27 am to Jbird
He could have used the money. He was a Lt Col making $500/month.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:27 am to son of arlo
quote:
Oh I know. We're all just guessing as to what could have happened.
ok I'm cool with that
Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:29 am to catholictigerfan
quote:I am a former Avionics guy, not tell me anything I don't know.
Speed and Altitude need sensors to work if those sensors fail you lose that information, if not handled property than pilot error could lead to a crash.
Inexperienced pilot was the causal factor to that mishap, apparently he doesn't know what the AOA guage is for.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:29 am to son of arlo
quote:
He could have used the money. He was a Lt Col making $500/month.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:36 am to Jbird
quote:
I am a former Avionics guy, not tell me anything I don't know.
Inexperienced pilot was the causal factor to that mishap, apparently he doesn't know what the AOA guage is for.
You know much more than me.
Only reason I claim to know things is because of my passion for air travel(I don't fly myself) and for flying consumer grade simulators which makes me far from an expert
This post was edited on 3/11/14 at 9:37 am
Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:38 am to catholictigerfan
quote:No worries, lots of good info in the thread and like I said interesting isn't it?
Only reason I claim to know things is because of my passion for air travel(I don't fly myself) and for flying consumer grade simulators which makes me far from an expert
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