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re: U.S. Steel CEO Says 10,000 Jobs To Be Brought Back… All Because Of Trump

Posted on 12/7/16 at 6:56 pm to
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 6:56 pm to
I'm not sure what your point is to mention that but the reason U.S. Steel was removed from the S&P 500 index was because its market cap had dropped to the point where it was considered a mid-cap company. So, it was moved to the S&P Mid-Cap 400 index where it still is.
Posted by Cruiserhog
Little Rock
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:08 pm to
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I don't blame them, but until the talk turns to action (like it did with the 1000 Carrier jobs), I'll be optimistic yet skeptical.


turns out it was only 700 jobs saved, Trump added the other 400 engineering union jobs that were already slated to stay. just a correction
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:09 pm to
GET OFF THIS FORUM
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:15 pm to
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Trumpkins believe manufacturing jobs have fled the US not because of economics/cheap labor - but because the last 6 or 7 presidents hatd America


That's an overly simplistic straw man you are building.

I work in an industry that was impacted by environmental regulations enacted 4 years ago. A misunderstanding or a lack of care about those industries and the people who are employed in those industries is not a "fake" problem that you can dismiss. It's real. Those decisions have a real impact on people's lives. They are not without consequences.
Posted by Cruiserhog
Little Rock
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:26 pm to
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GET OFF THIS FORUM


rents paid up, in your head
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99150 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:29 pm to
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The winning....... when does it stop?!?!?!?


The scary thing is...he's not even President yet!!!!
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:31 pm to
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It will be great if we build jobs, but I do wonder if companies are beginning to seek out free, positive publicity after the positive reaction to the Carrier deal.


Sounds like this deal is more about ramping up after scaling back in anticipation of business growth, and/or less regulation, and/or protection from Chinese pricing. It will be interesting to see how this one unfolds. I haven't done business with US Steel in years, but what typically plagued old-line US steel companies were pollution and safety issues, along with out-dated facilities that cost a ton to maintain. Perhaps they're thinking business will pick up if we slap a big tariff on Chinese steel.
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:33 pm to
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He announced this on November 11th originally

Also, I'm no expert, but I assume U.S. Steel is more of an earlier process of production provider and not really consumer facing. I doubt marketing is very important for them, but I could be wrong


Stock is up 50% since Nov 11. Pump and Dump Baby!!
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:34 pm to
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I'm not sure what your point is to mention that but the reason U.S. Steel was removed from the S&P 500 index was because its market cap had dropped to the point where it was considered a mid-cap company. So, it was moved to the S&P Mid-Cap 400 index where it still is.
It probably wasn't the best measure to use, but I was pointing out how the company has declined from not only the largest steel producer but the largest corporation and first billion dollar company to the 24th largest steel producer in 2015 (13th in 2013).

So I should have used a better representation, but I think the switch from large to mid cap encapsulates this in a simple categorization.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101664 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:35 pm to
They gonna be bigger than Hyman Roth again.
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:39 pm to
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but I was pointing out how the company has declined from not only the largest steel producer but the largest corporation and first billion dollar company to the 24th largest steel producer in 2015 (13th in 2013).


US Steel never figured out that they were a materials company, not a steel company. They should have used their might to diversify into aluminum and composites when they had the opportunity.
Posted by Creamer
louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:46 pm to
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but I do wonder if companies are beginning to seek out free, positive publicity after the positive reaction to the Carrier deal.


I don't see how this is a bad thing. Trump is making it cool for companies to add American jobs and have a made in America label. Theven pro America atmosphere will drive American manufacturing more than independent deals will
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25395 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:48 pm to
I'm not familiar with the source of the article. There's something similar on CNBC: LINK

Most steel mills open in the US today are known as minimills, and mostly depend on scrap as a raw material source. Nucor and AccelorMittle are the more well known minimill operators. I've debated if we should restrict exportation of steel scrap to China just to maintain those raw material resources within our borders.

There's actually still a full process mill in Braddock, Pennsylvania known as the Edgar Thomson Works. I believe it is one of the few left in the US today that isn't a minimill. I know US Steel shut down the blast furnace of their Alabama plant within the last year or two.


From CNBC:

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"We already structured to do some things, but when you see in the near future improvement to the tax laws, improvements to regulation, those two things by themselves may be a significant driver to what we're going to do," he said in an interview with CNBC's "Power Lunch."


It sounds like Trump is talking to big auto, big steel, and other big manufacturers in the US and trying to find out what their issues are and using them to develop policy that can help facilitate growth.

If he can stop the bleeding, that alone would be a huge achievement.


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Shares of the Pittsburgh-based company have soared about 80 percent since Trump's stunning victory on Nov. 8. Investors appear to be betting on increased infrastructure spending, which the president-elect has promised, as well as further restrictions on China-produced steel.
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
22977 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:51 pm to
So what's the tally of jobs now?

2000 from Carrier
10,000 from us steel
50,000 from SoftBank

Bet that WH press secretary feels dumb now.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23754 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:52 pm to
There are both scrap steel and new steel mills here in Mobile County Alabama, relatively new and ready to go. AN/MS Calvert can produce up to 5.3 million tons of rolled carbon steel products in a year. They can also produce a million tons of stainless.


If that's a minimill I would hate to see a full sized plant
This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 7:57 pm
Posted by Creamer
louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
2817 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:58 pm to
Hopefully this gets Nucor Louisiana back on track. As of now I think the remaining phases are on the back burner.
Posted by bleeng
The Woodlands
Member since Apr 2013
4077 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:58 pm to
Steel jobs were leaving in the 1970's and Pittsburgh was a ghost town by 1985. I am an avowed Obama hater but those steel mill jobs were long gone by time he took office.
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14012 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 8:01 pm to
The Truth Division

The real story is that he HOPES the economy will allow him to rehire laid off workers. I like what he says about something being wrong when a steel producer has to hire more lawyers than engineers. But these propaganda sites spin bullshite. Here's a credible source on the story:

The Street
Posted by tiger perry
Member since Dec 2009
25668 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 8:02 pm to
This is great to see. Winning
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 8:03 pm to
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I am an avowed Obama hater but those steel mill jobs were long gone by time he took office.


Too much objectivity for this board, someone claimed earlier that US consumers started buying Asian goods once Obama was elected.
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