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Trump vs. tEstablishment (Globalist Wing) - The Wall

Posted on 4/23/17 at 10:23 am
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 4/23/17 at 10:23 am
This should be an interesting week. Will Ryan or Trump fold? The Trump admin is out making the rounds this morning saying they can't imagine that the Dems would shut down the government over wall funding. They are really taking to Ryan here. globalist

The problem for tEstablishment here is that Trump can make sure that a government shutdown is less noticeable than normal. Remember, Obama had to take unusual measures to gin up photo ops for the last shutdown.

This post was edited on 4/23/17 at 9:03 pm
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 4/23/17 at 10:29 am to
The Wall is nonnegotiable. If they don't build the wall TRUMP has to know he is a one termer. The Big, Beautiful Trump Wall will be built.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35634 posts
Posted on 4/23/17 at 10:30 am to
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Trump vs. tEstablishment - The Wall
Can't wait to see what kind of entertaining script they've come up with for this.

It's all real, folks. You believe that don't you?

Posted by a want
I love everybody
Member since Oct 2010
19756 posts
Posted on 4/23/17 at 10:35 am to
Does anyone actually believe building a 2000 mile long wall will stop (or even slow) illegal immigration and/or limit drug activity?

I ask because there are areas where people tunnel under the existing wall when just 30-40 miles away there is no wall at all. They could travel 40 miles from a major town/city and simply walk across the border - but it's easier to tunnel under.

And I'm not even getting into the fact that most will cross legally to work and simply never return. You're delusional if you think this is going to work. Be a man. Realize your error in judgement. Oppose this horrendous and ineffective waste of resources.
This post was edited on 4/23/17 at 10:52 am
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118847 posts
Posted on 4/23/17 at 10:40 am to
Appropriate Trump $12 billion for the wall.

How does he pay for it?

Approve Wilber Ross' letter of intent to renegotiate NAFTA.

Done.

But big government protectionist Paul frickING Ryan will block him.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 4/23/17 at 10:43 am to
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The problem for tEstablishment here is that Trump can make sure that a government shutdown is less noticeable than normal

but making a shutdown less painful would be a terrible way to leverage wall funding out of it
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81840 posts
Posted on 4/23/17 at 10:44 am to
Good thing the wall isn't very expensive then
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35634 posts
Posted on 4/23/17 at 10:47 am to
quote:

But big government protectionist Paul frickING Ryan will block him.
But...but...but...Trump is the God Emperor, NOBODY can stop him.



Am I doing it right?
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146915 posts
Posted on 4/23/17 at 10:49 am to
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Appropriate Trump $12 billion for the wall.

How does he pay for it?

Approve Wilber Ross' letter of intent to renegotiate NAFTA.

Done.

But big government protectionist Paul frickING Ryan will block him.

Yep, and let's not forget what Speaker Ryan said...

Paul Ryan: U.S. to ‘Front’ Wall Money, Make Mexico Pay Later-January 26, 2017
This post was edited on 4/23/17 at 10:51 am
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35407 posts
Posted on 4/23/17 at 10:51 am to
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Donald J. Trump? @realDonaldTrump

Eventually, but at a later date so we can get started early, Mexico will be paying, in some form, for the badly needed border wall.
11:44 AM · Apr 23, 2017


"In some form"
This post was edited on 4/23/17 at 10:52 am
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
22387 posts
Posted on 4/23/17 at 10:51 am to
Paul Ryan is a worthless pos that needs to go. Terrible Speaker of the House.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35634 posts
Posted on 4/23/17 at 10:52 am to
quote:

Trump vs. tEstablishment - The Wall
Appropriate Trump $12 billion for the wall.

How does he pay for it?

Approve Wilber Ross' letter of intent to renegotiate NAFTA.

Done.

But big government protectionist Paul frickING Ryan will block him.
Why would he need to put up money and why would Ryan have an occasion to block funding for a wall that Mexico is going to pay for?

I ask because I can't keep up with the propaganda.
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
18771 posts
Posted on 4/23/17 at 10:58 am to
Take 1/10 of the money it would take to build a wall and use it to arrest and prosecute every American who hires an illegal alien.

Farmers, meat-packers, hotels, restaurants, old ladies who want cheap yardwork, etc. Lock their asses up, and watch the illegal alien issue dry up in a hurry.

The laws are on the books. Just enforce them.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146915 posts
Posted on 4/23/17 at 11:00 am to
Everytime I see the youtube video of Eddie Munster as Paul Ryan. I can see him beating the club down saying, 'he's rotten, he's rotten', because Speaker Ryan can't have HIS WAY.

This post was edited on 4/23/17 at 12:34 pm
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
19812 posts
Posted on 4/23/17 at 12:32 pm to
quote:


Can't wait to see what kind of entertaining script they've come up with for this.

It's all real, folks. You believe that don't you?


Normally I would agree but I've seen enough internally over the past couple of months to say that Trump is a whole different ball game.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118847 posts
Posted on 4/23/17 at 12:38 pm to
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Why would he need to put up money and why would Ryan have an occasion to block funding for a wall that Mexico is going to pay for?


The establishment is deathly against the wall. They want open borders for obvious reasons (cheap labor). The corporations are funding Paul Ryan's opposition. And the wall is not necessarily for the Trump administration. They will do a good job of enforcing current immigration law and will control illegal immigration pretty effectively. The wall is for future open border administrations (like Obama's) that will overtly ignore immigration law for cheap labor, NGO pay offs (looking at you Catholic and Moromon churches), and Democrat votes. Their argument about money for the wall is a lie. They are simply worried about the physical barrier and problem it presents with getting people to cross it.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79235 posts
Posted on 4/23/17 at 12:40 pm to
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big government protectionist


how can you say this with a straight face
Posted by LSU1NSEC
Member since Sep 2007
17243 posts
Posted on 4/23/17 at 12:42 pm to
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Trump vs. tEstablishment


he has 6 Goldman Sachs execs working for him
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118847 posts
Posted on 4/23/17 at 12:44 pm to
BAT.

20% tax on all imports. Paul Ryan wants that. It is protectionist AF.

Even Trump thinks that's a bridge too far.

Why? Because we lose our ability to implement punitive measures to our bad trading partners and rewards to our good trading partners. The BAT is EXTREMELY dumb.
Posted by PhillipJFry
Member since Sep 2016
964 posts
Posted on 4/23/17 at 12:47 pm to
The wall is one of the more ridiculous things we could waste our resources on. It's not going to be worth it at all. And the next president will just tear the damn thing down.
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