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re: Trump mandates all EPA data to be reviewed prior to release
Posted on 1/25/17 at 4:13 pm to K9
Posted on 1/25/17 at 4:13 pm to K9
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Say a gas line breaks up river from your drinking water source. instead of the EPA releasing info on how much got into your water source, how long it will take to remediate, etc. The "reviewers" say that it isn't a big deal. No need to cause panic. So they don't release it, and you never know anything about the whole situation.
What happens if there is lead contamination in a Midwestern US city? Would this mandate cause a 7 month delay in the relaying of information?
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Posted on 1/25/17 at 4:13 pm to NIH
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The folk worried about the EPA "data" are notorious Rand fan boys
Guilty. Unapologetically so. Are you gonna ask me about building roads next?
But a research background is where this is coming from. The idea that the executive branch would attempt to "interpret" the kind of data the EPA scientist compile is laughable. They aren't capable, and would do so only for political purposes.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 4:14 pm to MSMHater
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They aren't capable, and would do so only for political purposes.
This is all the EPA is guilty of
Posted on 1/25/17 at 4:14 pm to K9
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Say a gas line breaks up river from your drinking water source. instead of the EPA releasing info on how much got into your water source, how long it will take to remediate, etc. The "reviewers" say that it isn't a big deal. No need to cause panic. So they don't release it, and you never know anything about the whole situation.
I have liked Trump's moves so far, but without the whole story this seems bad.
Independent scientists can test and comment.
The EPA is a political entity controlled by the President. They have no "right" to do whatever they want.
They aren't independent. They work for someone, and that person is the President.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 4:14 pm to Fun Bunch
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The EPA to me is much more of a political entity than scientific one
It's why half the States sued the EPA under Obama.
States have their own experts and needs.
Doesn't matter who wants to politicize it States or Feds but Obama certainly did.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 4:14 pm to gthog61
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No frickwad
Anybody who doesn't like it can go into the private sector.
This post was edited on 1/25/17 at 4:15 pm
Posted on 1/25/17 at 4:14 pm to joshnorris14
quote:If your turd-polishing strategy is "it's just like what they did in Flint" it could use a rethink.
What happens if there is lead contamination in a Midwestern US city? Would this mandate cause a 7 month delay in the relaying of information?
Posted on 1/25/17 at 4:14 pm to joshnorris14
Remember when libtards all say that conservatives hate science? Yeah this is the shite that some of you forget happens under their watch. What a fricking fail.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 4:15 pm to OchoDedos
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And what of the political hacks already infiltrated into the EPA, which do everything with an Eco-Nazi vigor.
Fire them. Don't censor them. Very Orwellian.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 4:15 pm to joshnorris14
Jesus I like a lot of what Trump has been up to but this is just frickin Orwellian. The fact that so many of you support this because "Trump" is sad. We should not be seeing things how the federal government wants them to be seen. Question your government.
Or go start another retarded "I'm so full of winning" thread.
Or go start another retarded "I'm so full of winning" thread.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 4:15 pm to MSMHater
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They aren't capable, and would do so only for political purposes.
Of course. The EPA is a political entity.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 4:16 pm to NIH
For starters, not having thier data censored
Posted on 1/25/17 at 4:16 pm to joshnorris14
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This is all the EPA is guilty o
When used as such by the executive branch, as Obama did, yes.
But the agencies mission is not to be an enforcement arm of the executive branch against "enemy" states . That's just how the last a-hole used them.
This post was edited on 1/25/17 at 4:17 pm
Posted on 1/25/17 at 4:16 pm to rocket31
We have plenty of proof that their data is no more credible than the fake news on cnn
Posted on 1/25/17 at 4:16 pm to DavidTheGnome
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Jesus I like a lot of what Trump has been up to but this is just frickin Orwellian. The fact that so many of you support this because "Trump" is sad. We should not be seeing things how the federal government wants them to be seen. Question your government.
The EPA is Orwellian and is government. This IS restricting the power of government. Again, what happened in Flint and why did it take the EPA 7 months to do anything?
Posted on 1/25/17 at 4:16 pm to DavidTheGnome
Imagine if Hilary did this. The board would riot
Posted on 1/25/17 at 4:17 pm to Fun Bunch
Any environmental agency is going to be both scientific and political by its very nature.
But this procedure explicitly mandates that the political trumps the scientific. Unless there's some corresponding order requiring all political pronouncements to be fact-checked by scientific staff.
But this procedure explicitly mandates that the political trumps the scientific. Unless there's some corresponding order requiring all political pronouncements to be fact-checked by scientific staff.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 4:17 pm to DavidTheGnome
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this is just frickin Orwellian.
My god. What don't you people understand?
Trump isn't "silencing" a INDEPENDENT entity. He is telling people WHO WORK FOR HIM to shut the frick up until he or his people review it.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 4:17 pm to NIH
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The folk worried about the EPA "data" are notorious Rand fan boys.
They folks worried about this really don't care which department is producing the data.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 4:17 pm to MSMHater
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When used as such by the executive branch, as Obama did, yes.
But the agencies mission is not to be an enforcement arm of the executive branch. That's just how the last a-hole used them.
The only reason he is capable of doing that is because the organization is filled with Leftists acting on their political beliefs
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