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Posted on 9/4/14 at 12:21 am to PythagoreanTiger
Posted on 9/4/14 at 12:21 am to PythagoreanTiger
I have decided that I will be gay starting tomorrow. Anyone want their pecker polished?
Posted on 9/4/14 at 12:22 am to genro
quote:Correct.
It is for some and not for others. Not all gay people are the same.
Your opinion does not align with the OP.
Posted on 9/4/14 at 12:23 am to Freder
Posted on 9/4/14 at 12:25 am to NC_Tigah
Not what I'm getting at but seemingly offensive regardless. I don't want to take it there
The story I get more often is I like women but prefer men. Same sex could be a preference. I have no idea. I just believe it's not a choice but I also believe that if you had a reliable polygraph (you know, something that doesn't exist) you'd find bisexuality to be the case among the "gayest" of people
Nothing more than a belief on my part
The story I get more often is I like women but prefer men. Same sex could be a preference. I have no idea. I just believe it's not a choice but I also believe that if you had a reliable polygraph (you know, something that doesn't exist) you'd find bisexuality to be the case among the "gayest" of people
Nothing more than a belief on my part
Posted on 9/4/14 at 12:25 am to NC_Tigah
I understand what he was going for and I believe that homosexuality isn't a choice. I'm just not a fan of stereotypes of any type--however "true" they be.
Posted on 9/4/14 at 12:25 am to PythagoreanTiger
quote:
Right. Since all gay men don't like sports and are in boy bands and vice versa.
I really don't get the protestation to my story. Fox Mulder just shared a very similar anecdote right after I shared mine. Are you saying that you think I'm lying? Or are you just saying that I was being politically incorrect in the way I told my story?
I actually admire the heck out of my cousin - he was always true blue and acted the way he wanted. He never presented to be interested in girls or football or gangsta rap. He was always himself - drama and fricking piano from age 5 on
that shite takes a lot of courage - I know he took some lumps for it even though we grew up aways apart.
This post was edited on 9/4/14 at 12:28 am
Posted on 9/4/14 at 12:27 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
Your opinion does not align with the OP.
How do you know. I think we can choose anything regardless of our programming. People don't taste wine for the first time and go "damn that's tasty"
Posted on 9/4/14 at 12:28 am to Freder
quote:
I have decided that I will be gay starting tomorrow. Anyone want their pecker polished?
Again, I don't think it's a choice, but I certainly believe either voluntarily or involuntarily it's something that you can choose. By that I mean a desire you can develop
Posted on 9/4/14 at 12:30 am to DelU249
I think it's called experimentation.
This post was edited on 9/4/14 at 12:31 am
Posted on 9/4/14 at 12:30 am to SirWinston
I guess it isn't pc to acknowledge a lot of gay men participate in feminine activities at a higher rate than straight men
Posted on 9/4/14 at 12:31 am to DelU249
Is it a choice to like or dislike a piece of art? There's not even a good, simple answer for that. And thats just a painting. Now we wanna delve into human behavior, relationships, psychology, biology, personality, sexuality, aesthetics, companionship, culture, impressionability, et cetera to try and categorize and explain people based on who they frick. It's an impossible task.
This post was edited on 9/4/14 at 12:31 am
Posted on 9/4/14 at 12:31 am to SirWinston
I don't think you're lying at all and your story clearly supports the argument that it is not a choice. It's the "political correctness" of it, I guess. Even though I hate that saying since it has such negative connotations.
Every homosexual person is an individual with their own lived experiences. I guess that's what I was going for with my comment.
Every homosexual person is an individual with their own lived experiences. I guess that's what I was going for with my comment.
Posted on 9/4/14 at 12:32 am to Freder
Yes but based on an inner desire. Sure some people say "frick it. I've never done that before"
But I believe a person with zero homosexual desires can develop genuine desires based on external factors
But I believe a person with zero homosexual desires can develop genuine desires based on external factors
Posted on 9/4/14 at 12:37 am to genro
Sure it CAN be
And that's all I'm saying about sexuality, it CAN be
Tastes change and people are complicated. I'm sure some people sleep with members of the same sex strictly because it's taboo. Their desires have nothing to do with attraction to the same sex
shite some people are in to feet, why can't that be biological? We don't know, and that's all I'm saying
And to clarify again so it doesn't get lost with what I'm saying, I believe that sexual preference is more often than not something you're biologically programmed with
And that's all I'm saying about sexuality, it CAN be
Tastes change and people are complicated. I'm sure some people sleep with members of the same sex strictly because it's taboo. Their desires have nothing to do with attraction to the same sex
shite some people are in to feet, why can't that be biological? We don't know, and that's all I'm saying
And to clarify again so it doesn't get lost with what I'm saying, I believe that sexual preference is more often than not something you're biologically programmed with
Posted on 9/4/14 at 12:40 am to DelU249
And look at all of this discussion, it reinforces the original point
We don't KNOW...I believe humans historically have a problem with admitting that. I'm no exception.
We don't KNOW...I believe humans historically have a problem with admitting that. I'm no exception.
Posted on 9/4/14 at 12:47 am to PythagoreanTiger
quote:
Every homosexual person is an individual with their own lived experiences.
Statistical probability or statistical prevalence
I prefer these terms. Stereotyping is nothing more than recognizing, incorrectly or correctly, patterns among groups of people. Nothing wrong with it at all.
Posted on 9/4/14 at 12:57 am to DelU249
quote:
Being gay is not a choice! Prove it
Agreed but there's no proof. I think you can develop a taste for anything though
Again, I don't think it's a choice but I don't know
Isn't it ironic that heterosexual gay sympathizers and gay people can't imagine it as a choice but gay bashing freaks think it is?
Posted on 9/4/14 at 12:59 am to DawgfaninCa
quote:Uh, quite a few primates fail this criteria (female macaques, bonobos, gorillas), as do sheep (males with exclusive homosexual orientation), penguins (males pair bonding and child-rearing), a bunch of albatrosses and gulls (haha I bet you thought "lesbian seagull" was a Beavis and Butthead joke), you want me to keep going or you want to start walking this back or start on your ridiculous definition of "dominance"?
All except one of the examples of animals that supposedly engage in acts of homosexuality have been male animals engaging in acts of dominance.
This post was edited on 9/4/14 at 12:59 am
Posted on 9/4/14 at 1:03 am to mmcgrath
You don't think it's possible to be a homosexual sympathizer or even a homosexual and think it's a choice
Why does this caveat even matter?
I can hate handicap people even if it's not a choice
That's the point, we're talking about something no one knows the answer to, and while it's efficient to categorize "anti gays" in the "it's a choice column", the belief it's a choice is neither hateful nor prejudicial
I believe it's biological (generally speaking), but I'm open to the possibility that i am wrong
Why does this caveat even matter?
I can hate handicap people even if it's not a choice
That's the point, we're talking about something no one knows the answer to, and while it's efficient to categorize "anti gays" in the "it's a choice column", the belief it's a choice is neither hateful nor prejudicial
I believe it's biological (generally speaking), but I'm open to the possibility that i am wrong
Posted on 9/4/14 at 1:05 am to Iosh
Did you just reference englebert Humperdink? Winner
Not only do people generally not know that, they generally don't know of the song either
Not only do people generally not know that, they generally don't know of the song either
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