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Three things JBE could do to reduce deficit without all his new taxes & without cutting--

Posted on 4/7/17 at 11:23 am
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 4/7/17 at 11:23 am
1) eliminate payments and issuance of film tax credits--we have already decided we don't have honor them on any particular time schedule so instead of limiting redemptions to $180 million year let's limit them to $10 million--savings $170 million---cost to hardworking Louisiana taxpayers--ZERO

2) eliminated the oil severance tax credits--not as much revenue now as it was few years ago but could be $100 million---cost to hard working Louisiana taxpayers---ZERO

3) tax the government pensioners like the rest of us--on state pensions alone over $4 billion a year is paid out--none taxed. Add in the federal pensions that are not taxed--let's say another billion. If taxed like the common taxpayer's pension let's say the net rate would be 2% so there is another $100 million--cost to hardworking Louisiana taxpayers---ZERO

This post was edited on 4/7/17 at 11:24 am
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48439 posts
Posted on 4/7/17 at 11:24 am to
You sure do love for other people to pay more taxes. You are a good democrat.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40146 posts
Posted on 4/7/17 at 11:25 am to
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Three things JBE could do to reduc deficit


1. Cut back on medicaid fraud

2. Scrap the Charity system or modify it to take advantage of the medicaid expansion or whatever the republican healthcare plan eventually is.

3. Close 4 public universities ASAP.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 4/7/17 at 11:26 am to
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You sure do love for other people to pay more taxes. You are a good democrat.



I prefer these special interest to pay more taxes before I do.

JBE lays in bed at night trying to tax us all while making no mention of eliminating such treatment of special interest.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 4/7/17 at 11:27 am to
I WOULD much prefer cuts--I am simply pointing out the absurdity of JBE's stance that the only choice is his new taxes to maintain revenue--his primary focus.
Posted by toratiger
susukino
Member since Aug 2008
2604 posts
Posted on 4/7/17 at 11:30 am to
Dumb Bel will never have enough of your money. No politician ever has enough money to spend. It's a law of nature. The more they spend, the more they and their friends make.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 4/7/17 at 11:33 am to
Also:

End Quality Jobs: 291M
End Enterprise Zone: 47M
End S Corp: 504M
End Inventory/Ad Valorem: 210M
End Fed Income Tax Deduction: 175M
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 4/7/17 at 11:35 am to
quote:

End Fed Income Tax Deduction: 175M


will cost hard working Louisiana taxpayers

Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 4/7/17 at 11:36 am to
and all that other stuff will cost others; everyone feels the pain

much more likely that everyone now has a stake in getting spending under control
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14499 posts
Posted on 4/7/17 at 11:53 am to
quote:

1) eliminate payments and issuance of film tax credits-
Lawsuit, won't happen.

quote:

3) tax the government pensioners like the rest of us
I am down with that.

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2) eliminated the oil severance tax credits


Help me out with this. What is this referring to? What would it be listed as in the tax exemption budget and/or statute?
Posted by Taxing Tiger
Member since Mar 2013
635 posts
Posted on 4/7/17 at 12:19 pm to
End S-Corps? Do you understand what you're saying? That's asinine. S-Corps are flow through entities. Those dollars are already being taxed on the individuals returns.

Eliminating the Fed Inc Tax deduction will impact a large portion of LA citizens. Another terrible idea.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 4/7/17 at 12:25 pm to
quote:

1) eliminate payments and issuance of film tax credits-
Lawsuit, won't happen


Notice I said to limit them to $10 million a year. We have already limited them to $180 million a year so why can't we limit them further?

quote:


Help me out with this. What is this referring to? What would it be listed as in the tax exemption budget and/or statute?


Is the fracking credit we give drillers---basically we give them exemptions from the severance tax until the entire cost of the well has been recouped
Posted by Taxing Tiger
Member since Mar 2013
635 posts
Posted on 4/7/17 at 12:26 pm to
Remove the statutory restrictions on some departments/programs so we can make cuts to more than just healthcare and higher education. You'll never make real progress unless all options are on the table. Without checking, I'd venture to say that 75% of the state's budget is statutorily protected. So we're trying to balance a budget with cuts that only impact 25% of the entire pie. It'll never work.
Posted by ThisWayChad
Member since Nov 2009
2531 posts
Posted on 4/7/17 at 12:37 pm to
quote:

End Quality Jobs: 291M End Enterprise Zone: 47M End S Corp: 504M End Inventory/Ad Valorem: 210M End Fed Income Tax Deduction: 175M


Posted by ThisWayChad
Member since Nov 2009
2531 posts
Posted on 4/7/17 at 12:39 pm to
quote:

Remove the statutory restrictions on some departments/programs so we can make cuts to more than just healthcare and higher education. You'll never make real progress unless all options are on the table. Without checking, I'd venture to say that 75% of the state's budget is statutorily protected. So we're trying to balance a budget with cuts that only impact 25% of the entire pie. It'll never work.


Isn't the issue a constitutional one? Meaning, to cut from something other than healthcare and higher ed (generally speaking) we would need to amend the constitution?
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14499 posts
Posted on 4/7/17 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

Notice I said to limit them to $10 million a year. We have already limited them to $180 million a year so why can't we limit them further?


And they almost sued then. They held off for political reasons.

quote:

Is the fracking credit we give drillers---basically we give them exemptions from the severance tax until the entire cost of the well has been recouped


Horizontal drilling?
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14499 posts
Posted on 4/7/17 at 1:02 pm to
quote:

End S-Corps? Do you understand what you're saying? That's asinine. S-Corps are flow through entities. Those dollars are already being taxed on the individuals returns.


Yeah that's not so much a deduction as it is a function of our tax setup.

Eliminating it would be criminal imho.

quote:

Eliminating the Fed Inc Tax deduction will impact a large portion of LA citizens. Another terrible idea.


OK with this if it is used to lower rates.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 4/7/17 at 1:18 pm to
quote:

Do you understand what you're saying? That's asinine. S-Corps are flow through entities. Those dollars are already being taxed on the individuals returns.

well now they wouldn't be.

in la, corp rate>personal rate, and these are corps.
quote:

Eliminating the Fed Inc Tax deduction will impact a large portion of LA citizens. Another terrible idea.

policies are good/bad based on the number of people impacted?

eta: playing devil's advocate here. really i just picked a set of tax carveouts that target a group different than op targeted. point being, this appears to be nothing more than an advocacy thread- definitely not a policy one.
This post was edited on 4/7/17 at 1:20 pm
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67123 posts
Posted on 4/7/17 at 1:25 pm to
Cutting the film tax credit saves zero money this year, same as merging higher ed institutions, but could yield huge savings in the future.
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9947 posts
Posted on 4/7/17 at 1:29 pm to
quote:

Horizontal drilling?



Yep. Severance tax suspension on horizontal wells, but the entire Briggs lineage would have to be wiped out before that has a chance in hell.
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