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re: Things I disagree with Trump over----and every conservative should

Posted on 1/23/17 at 11:39 am to
Posted by Texas Weazel
Louisiana is a shithole
Member since Oct 2016
8532 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 11:39 am to
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I challenge anyone to match my conservative credentials.

A pure conservative would have no issue with gay marriage. The government has no business telling people who and who cannot be married.

Agree?
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89506 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 11:39 am to
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I am for unlimited legal immigration.


Think about what you're typing before you make an arse of yourself.

"Unlimited" - setting aside for a second that we cannot process and vet an "unlimited" number of people. Where are we going to put the entire population of the planet under your scenario if we decide to adopt your policy and accept everyone?

Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32095 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 11:40 am to
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Things I disagree with Trump over


It's Monday and I still don't care.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 11:43 am to
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A pure conservative would have no issue with gay marriage. The government has no business telling people who and who cannot be married.

Agree?



I have always said the government should get out of the marriage business. How shallow is it to think some commitment made to a justice of the peace means anything more than a commitment to each other. It is all about money.

Don't you agree?
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 11:45 am to
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Think about what you're typing before you make an arse of yourself.

"Unlimited" - setting aside for a second that we cannot process and vet an "unlimited" number of people. Where are we going to put the entire population of the planet under your scenario if we decide to adopt your policy and accept everyone?


You obviously did not finish reading the paragraph. If you think the number of people coming here under my proposal would be anywhere near what it is today you are crazy.

Why anyone would be against a person coming here to work that pays their own way, lives without welfare, has health insurance, has housing and pays taxes is beyond me.
Posted by Texas Weazel
Louisiana is a shithole
Member since Oct 2016
8532 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 11:47 am to
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It is all about money.

Don't you agree?


Absolutely. Everyone has their selfish reasons, even *gasp* Trump.

It's just that I always cringe when people call themselves conservative, but go out and support Trump and his ideas, which are not conservative. He's a Mercantilist who is touching the liberal waters. How anyone can root for that is mind boggling.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22410 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 11:55 am to
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I am for unlimited legal immigration.


The only way this works is if we pick and choose based on projected earnings. You cant have poor people pouring into a country with welfare on the books.
This post was edited on 1/23/17 at 12:00 pm
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89506 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 11:56 am to
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Why anyone would be against a person coming here to work that pays their own way, lives without welfare, has health insurance, has housing and pays taxes is beyond me.


That person still has to be processed and vetted (and kept track of once he or she is here).

Your open border scenario is anarchy. It is no nation at all, just a geographic footnote.
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 12:55 pm to
On trade, this may be what you are already saying but there is no free trade when country A doesn't have a mountain of regulations and pay their employees peanuts and country B does have a mountain of regulations and must pay their employees a decent wage.

Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
19065 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 1:16 pm to
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If all this country is to you is a FREE MARKET then I don't know how you can call yourself a Conservative.

I am a conservative. And I strongly believe the free enterprise system works and free market capitalism is the best method for the allocation of resources and wealth. What does NOT work is government interference in the system. So I have spoken, so let it be done.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 2:45 pm to
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That person still has to be processed and vetted (and kept track of once he or she is here).


That is correct and every Western country is capable of that. Are you saying we are not?
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Your open border scenario is anarchy.


In what twisted way do you not find my proposal much more restricting on immigration than what we have now?
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