re: The Left Is Brainwashing Youth Into Thinking Unions Are Good For Them

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But you need to have your head buried deep in the sand if you don’t see the wage stagnation over the past 40 years have been brutal and crippling.

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1) Its natural as our low level workers compete globally now, and they didn't 50 years ago. Our workers make too much money to complete globally. Evern China has reached some equilibrium as companies exit for cheaper places like Vietnam and Mexico.

2) Welfare. Boosting the low income standard of living through handouts

3) Immigration. Importing millions of lowly educated people puts extreme downward pressure on wages.

4) Govt monetary policy which we all have supported since we benefitted though we pretend otherwise.

5) Increasing corporatization through mergers, way too many "too big to fail" companies which we already have laws to prevent.

Young people with little work ethic are fricked. Young people who want to hustle will find it better than any previous time.

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Perhaps because we can't fricking afford to increase wages. I'm struggling to make payroll, literally dipping into my personal savings to make payroll on a weekly basis now for about 4 months, while payroll expense is exponentially higher than any other COG on my P&L. I also barely pay myself anything. So you tell me, continue the status quo or close my doors, no one has a job anymore and I pivot into the next chapter in life.

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I have learned that you are wasting your time typing that out.

The poster above is correct in that complaining about having a job is as old as having a job. There are people who have an employee mentality and there are people who have an entrepreneurial mentality.

The employe mentality includes a hardwired dogma that states the following:

1. Employers deliberately wish to give employees less than they deserve. There is a conference room in every corporate suite which upper management retires to every day, several times a day, wherein they rub their hands together, twist their mustaches, and belly laugh at how hard they are screwing the employees while deep breathing the smell of fire and brimstone from a miniature pit of hell in the corner. They don't give employees "less than they deserve" because they have to, they do it because they enjoy it.

2. Supply and demand doesn't apply to labor. Supply and demand works fine for the employee mentality when they are applying it to themselves as a consumer, but they are deeply offended when the same principle applies to them as an employee. At that point the employer is supposed to value their contributions much more than the market dictates.

3. Now, while the employer is The Great Satan for only valuing employee's contributions as the market dictates (which is to say, they only value it as much as the forces of demand and scarcity dictate, rather than some irrelevant value like "How much money I made the company last year"), the employee is perfectly justified in only valuing the employer to the degree that the market dictates. It's assumed that this is rightly only a one-way street. If an employee finds a better job, who could blame him or her for taking it? On the other hand, if the company finds a better employee...well, better duck and cover for that scenario.

4. The employee knows that they "deserve" a raise because groceries are more expensive this year than they were last year. The fact that everything is more expensive for the company too is of no concern to them whatsoever (not that it should concern them, but rather I should say it never occurs to them that the company is less able to give them a raise this year than they were last year for the same reason they are certain that they "deserve" one).

5. Companies only rightfully exist to provide for the employees needs and wants and "deserves." They exist for no other reason. Certainly not to maximize profits, (which is actually, in reality, the only reason that any company ever existed, and in fact is what they are legally obligated to do if they have shareholders.). Employers are supposed to value employees as people first and foremost (while, of course, employees have no such responsibility to employers).

What I have learned over time is that trying to reason with people who have an employee mentality around these (and others, this is not an exhaustive list) religious dogmas is about as productive as trying to convince Hamas that they should just let Israel have Jerusalem and give up on the whole Jihad thing.

The same wires in their brains that wire them as employees in the first place also hard wire these precepts. You can no more change them than you could make them start thinking like a duck.

My advice is to just remain silent.

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They shouldn't necessarily be loyal.

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Nope.

And neither should the company.

It works the same way in both directions.

Just keep your head down, work hard, and you’ll be noticed and rewarded. That makes a difference in people with tenure. Can’t go in with a “chip on your shoulder”.

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You people can’t be this stupid.

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Stupid people need unions.

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and it's mainly due to corporate greed

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it's mainly due to government malfeasance causing inflation. There's no such thing as free money.

POT SMOKING MILLENIALS R RUININ DIS countRY!!- Random man with sunglasses ranting in his truck.

Covid hit and we were short and I did 2/3 people’s job bc we were short for months. No extra compensation. No union. Go talk to boss? Yeah right. They don’t give a shite. I quit and was one of only 2 employees out of 10 that had been there over 2 years. Turnover was unreal. They ran off a good employee bc they were idiots. People working there now say it is even worse. Dumbasses.

If an employee feels he is underpaid, he can find work elsewhere or ask for a raise. Its an individual contract that at some point, that employee accepted willingly. He will not, however, under penalty of law be at undue risk of safety, health, overwork, uncompensated work, etc.


Again, do you support industries collectively working to fix wages? IE, all auto manufacturers agree to set a wage cap for production line workers, or agree to not hire union members. How is that different?

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Just keep your head down, work hard, and you’ll be noticed and rewarded.

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I’ve been there before and have gotten nowhere. As mentioned by a post above, you can pick up the slack of multiple positions to get the job done and some employers do not care.

Now inflation is kicking everyone’s arse. I get being a company man, my father was one. Not to get into details but I was screwed over even after covering extra shite. Never again.