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re: The Judge in the Lake Trial is going to decide the fate of this country

Posted on 12/23/22 at 12:21 pm to
Posted by Sneauxghost
Member since Sep 2020
1093 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 12:21 pm to
So I’m at the gym. Two dudes next to me discussing how many people would really be willing to spill blood, theirs or others, to fight to save the country. It’s the first time I’ve heard people openly discussing violence. I never really thought that was an option. There are just too many people in the US for battles like 1776ish time frame. Surely the US can be saved without the ugliness of a street war. Heck the overlords are not even in the general population. What’s a viable option for the everyday American citizen??
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 12:28 pm to
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Hobbs is such the white spec on the top of chicken chit. No way she won this election without some real phuckery. She didn't even try, the same as Biden.



the old NO Way 81 million voted against Trump debate point.

there's no way the outcome did not agree with my heartfelt prayer.
it cannot be so.

Posted by L1C4
The Ville
Member since Aug 2017
13348 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 12:39 pm to
He'll fold like a Republican Congressman.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
147709 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 1:06 pm to
Each State is different but none of this happens unless the establishment sends 500 lawyers.

(IOW's a candidate THEY chose like Youngkin or GWBush: Or the unfettered redistricting Florida was allowed to do without being called racists with any countersuits from Eric Holder/ DOJ NSD)

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A redo election, also known as a revote or special election remedy, is the process of voiding election results and holding a new election.[1] The specific reasons for calling a redo election vary, but might include deliberate efforts to obscure the results such as electoral fraud or mistakes like a broken voting machine.

Most commonly, a court is responsible for calling a redo election because election contests are handled in court. The level of the court handling the election dispute varies by state and even by the type of election. Election dispute cases may originate in either a trial court of general jurisdiction or a state supreme court, and the rules for the number of judges presiding over the case varies as well.

According to the U.S. Election Assistance Commission, courts arbitrate election disputes in 47 states. In three other states, the matter is either handled by other elected officials or government agencies, or the group with standing over the dispute is not detailed in state law. In those instances, it is theoretically possible that said official or agency would be responsible for calling a redo election, although no instances of this have been documented.

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Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
25106 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 1:06 pm to
I'm not getting my hopes up. Too many times we've seen this play out just to be let down. I commend Lake for fighting and trying, and I'd love to see Hobbs and every other a-hole involved in election tampering go straight to jail, but I know we'll be left perpetually wanting.
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
25106 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 1:12 pm to
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It’s no surprise, really. The average lifespan of a country = 158 years; the U.S. celebrated its 246th birthday in 2022.


I really think the years coming out of WWII were the high water mark for our country. We've been on a slow and steady decline for 60 years, and it's been tremendously expedited since 2008.

The nuclear family has been decimated, politicians are spending money we don't have and wanting a pat on the back for it, our military is more concerned with pronouns than common defense, we have no control of our border with God knows what and who coming across, and we're barreling towards the day when the country has more taker bees than worker bees.

It's unsustainable and no one in power is trying to pull the emergency brake.
Posted by DreauxB2015
Member since Nov 2015
7750 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 1:44 pm to
The fact that the Judge continued to allow Slick Willie Stallone read his answers yesterday after being called out a few times should give you a good indication this thing was tilted from the beginning .
This post was edited on 12/23/22 at 1:49 pm
Posted by broadcaster
Maurepas
Member since Sep 2013
2685 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 2:11 pm to
It's the noway a already elected President gets 10 million more votes the next time and loses type shite
Posted by RuckMaul1
Member since Sep 2022
342 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 2:15 pm to
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the old NO Way 81 million voted against Trump debate point.

there's no way the outcome did not agree with my heartfelt prayer.
it cannot be so.


Eat shite and die.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 2:53 pm to
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So much distrust, suspicion and paranoia in this thread. Chicken littles all. I don't understand the hate and anger you have toward your equal fellow citizens.

You claim not to understand...

..BECAUSE you are actively supporting the theft of the civil rights of 10s of millions of AMERICANS.

NOT good.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
32140 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 2:59 pm to
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The old school American Patriots that founded and defended this country would have chosen death and freedom over life and tyranny If this judge folds, he’s a pussy



If he folds what are you going to do about it?


Post on the internet?
This post was edited on 12/23/22 at 3:01 pm
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
147709 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 3:01 pm to
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After two days of testimony in Maricopa County, Arizona, Superior Court Judge Peter Thompson is preparing to deliver his ruling on the two legal challenges. A decision could be announced as early as today. Kari Lake is asking for the judge to declare her the winner or establish a new election.

The trial circled on two specific points of Kari Lake’s legal claims. One point alleges intentional misconduct with ballot printers, paper stock and tabulators. The second point on intentional subversion of required chain of custody processes for ballots.

On the merits of the two points, Kari Lake’s legal team did seem to prove that election officials intentionally and purposefully created a problem by generating a ballot that required 20-inch paper stock, then electronically modifying the ballot image (shrink to print) to a 19-inch standard. This caused tabulators to reject the ballots. There was also convincing testimony the chain of custody was intentionally violated.

LINK
This post was edited on 12/23/22 at 3:05 pm
Posted by ItNeverRains
37069
Member since Oct 2007
25711 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 3:08 pm to
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the old NO Way 81 million voted against Trump debate point. there's no way the outcome did not agree with my heartfelt prayer. it cannot be so.


More like the old At 1am we stopped counting in specific counties in specific states until we were able to “cure” enough ballots for the desired outcome. But you’re so whacked out on SSRI’s and Benzodiazepines you don’t give a shite.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
147709 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 3:10 pm to
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My own review of two days of testimony and court action is not optimistic toward Kari Lake’s challenge.

Yes, there is no doubt the election was intentionally screwed up by officials in Maricopa County who are transparently averse to the interests of Kari Lake. The bias and opposition expressed by the election officials is visible, palpable and substantive. These are activists within the county election system.

As a result, it’s clear the election officials did everything to influence or tilt the election outcome. Very clear. However, short of them taking the stand, taking an oath, and stating they cheated and broke the law, the value of plausible deniability protects them. It’s almost impossible to prove election fraud and tampering without an admission by those who did the fraud and tampering.

Lake had a steep uphill climb, and unfortunately one of the larger weaknesses carried by all MAGA candidates (in a general sense) is the low quality of their lawyers. I know each candidate cannot say it themselves, and I am aware it is not the popular thing to say out loud, but the quality of the lawyer is critical when the election challenge issues finally reach the courtroom.

There is a big difference between filing motions, writing legal opinions, and being able to structure questions in real time with witnesses under oath. Lakes legal team is very competent on the written legal analysis, but inside the court, where telling your story and winning your arguments through the testimony of the witnesses becomes important, Lakes legal team was weak. The questions were worded with unnecessary complexity and often missed the core truths.

The biggest example of the weak courtroom skill came when co-Elections Director for Maricopa County Robert Scott Jarrett perjured himself on the witness stand. The Lake team completely missed the moment, fumbled, spoke in circles and did a terrible job pointing out the brutal nature of the falsehoods Jarrett delivered. The defense lawyers breathed a sigh of relief.

Court cases are about telling the story of the truth, and the skill of getting the truth through the testimony of others is a skill. There is a reason why top-notch courtroom lawyers are paid a great deal of money; the client is purchasing a skillset only held by a small segment of lawyers. Mrs. Lake had adequate representation, but the legal team was not up to the challenge of telling a compelling story in court in a manner that could climb the legal mountain they faced.

You can watch more about this issue via Bannon War Room Direct Rumble Link at 03:45 Forward the video to 3:45.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
147709 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 3:19 pm to
I think intention was proven but this was sad
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The biggest example of the weak courtroom skill came when co-Elections Director for Maricopa County Robert Scott Jarrett perjured himself on the witness stand. The Lake team completely missed the moment, fumbled, spoke in circles and did a terrible job pointing out the brutal nature of the falsehoods Jarrett delivered. The defense lawyers breathed a sigh of relief.
I would presume any Judge decision will be here first.

https://twitter.com/KariLake
Posted by NCIS_76
Member since Jan 2021
5246 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 3:29 pm to
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He’ll fold openly proving to the country once and for all elections don’t matter and the people are being controlled by liars and cheats with no recourse


He has enough money about to enter his bank account to fold.
Posted by lizlady68
Norwalk
Member since Jan 2022
274 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 3:36 pm to
This is the hill of tyranny and most patriotic folks support Lake and her willingness to fight and die on that hill!
Posted by 4TheLoveLSU
North Carolina
Member since Oct 2019
2317 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 4:59 pm to
Here is a really good take on the situation..
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Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
99523 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 5:12 pm to
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What’s a viable option for the everyday American citizen??


Keep your powder dry.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
99523 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 5:15 pm to
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Eat shite and die.


You want otto to eat itself?
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