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re: The 265 members of Congress who sold you out to ISPs, and how much it cost to buy them
Posted on 3/29/17 at 9:08 am to BaddestAndvari
Posted on 3/29/17 at 9:08 am to BaddestAndvari
quote:They are corporate sheep. They probably spin this in their minds of it creating jobs or something. Corporations good, individual privacy rights bad.
WTF people?!?! You fricking PAY your ISP already - this can NOT be compared to Google in any fricking way - Google offers services to you for FREE - and pay for the "FREE" with your data - ISP's are already charging you an arm and a fricking leg for their service, drown out any competition so you have no choice, and NOW want to take all of the data they have on you and sell it to the highest bidder
What in the ever loving frick is wrong with you idiots?!
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Posted on 3/29/17 at 9:09 am to CorporateTiger
quote:So.. you could browse without the use of the ISP?
It's something I create. The history only generated by my browsing and my choices on where to go.
The ISP contributes nothing to this data's creation and only receives it incidentally.
quote:You could.
Also if I could choose to avoid Comcast I would,
Posted on 3/29/17 at 9:10 am to iPadThai
This goes to show you that our government is corrupt. Both side look out for each other and continue to frick the American people. They don't even care about using lube at this point.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 9:11 am to Taxing Authority
quote:
So.. you could browse without the use of the ISP?
Let's go over this again. This data is valuable because it reveals the trends and desires of the public. Comcast provides no input on that.
If you could get Americans to generate logs of their thoughts and turn them over to one central place it would be the exact same as this.
Comcast provides nothing to this data, they just happen to have a convenient way to collect it.
quote:
You could.
:eyeroll:
Posted on 3/29/17 at 9:12 am to CorporateTiger
quote:
could choose to go other search engines
quote:See the incongruency?quote:I probably will. Doesn't mean I should have to though.
simply change your browser to Tor.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 9:12 am to BaddestAndvari
quote:Politicians have no clue either. But ensuring providing a service is as unprofitable as possible, won't lead to more choices. Quite the opposite.
Disclaimer: I am not a politician, so I have no clue what could be done to help small ISP startups with initial startup cost, or how to remove the non-compete areas that ISPs own... but there HAS to be a way
Posted on 3/29/17 at 9:13 am to Taxing Authority
quote:
Also if I could choose to avoid Comcast I would,
You could.
please go on, I'm waiting on pins and needles how you know this person has a choice, an anonymous person on the internet
Oh, and I have no choice where I live, it's Charter or nothing... well I mean, my Charter is 100MBps down and 10MBps up and have a "non-compete" clause in my neighborhood for another 10 years - but AT&T did put in 3MBps down and 200KBps up lines 10 years ago, so I guess I "do" have that option
frick off - I'm actually the lucky one, Charter is actually a good company and treats me well, other people are just fricked
Posted on 3/29/17 at 9:15 am to NC_Tigah
No not at all. Tor isn't a competitor. It is a third-party that allows me to have some level of privacy. There is still no choice for me within ISPs.
Search engines? Choice
Webmail? Choice
Web browser? Choice
ISP? No choice
See the incongruity?
Search engines? Choice
Webmail? Choice
Web browser? Choice
ISP? No choice
See the incongruity?
Posted on 3/29/17 at 9:15 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
If that bothers you, simply change your browser to Tor.
"Simply" use an unencrypted service that has all data not in end to end encryption like SSL in plaintext and easily readable by any exit node randomly used?
Yeah, great solution, and good way to have to constantly deal with hacking attempts.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 9:16 am to CorporateTiger
quote:
ISP? No choice
Taxing Authority: "Yes You Do"
Posted on 3/29/17 at 9:17 am to BaddestAndvari
Also in before ISPs go after Tor just like the U.K. is targeting WhatsApp.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 9:18 am to BaddestAndvari
quote:First off, I hope you aren't paying $200/mo for a personal connection.
do you pay google $60 - $200 a month?
Second, if you think the service is not worth the cost, set up your own ISP. Simple as that.
Otherwise, if it bothers you, use Tor.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 9:20 am to CorporateTiger
quote:Ok so you're claiming it can be created without Comcast?
Comcast provides no input on that.
quote:These aren't your thoughts. They are your actions, and use on another person's property. Credit cards sell your useage data ALL THE TIME. Facebook and google use your phones location services to detect when you go to a store so they can serve you ads to that store. They even detect brand logos in the photos you post to sell advertisers on you.
If you could get Americans to generate logs of their thoughts and turn them over to one central place it would be the exact same as this.
quote:Then you should have no problem avoiding them if they don't provide anything.
Comcast provides nothing to this data
This post was edited on 3/29/17 at 9:22 am
Posted on 3/29/17 at 9:20 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
set up your own ISP. Simple as that.
With all of the monopolistic regulations the telecom industry has pushed through on the local level? Yeah that is realistic.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 9:21 am to Volvagia
quote:
"Simply" use an unencrypted service
Posted on 3/29/17 at 9:23 am to BaddestAndvari
quote:
please go on, I'm waiting on pins and needles how you know this person has a choice,
When did they stop him from accessing the Internet from his cell phone?
Posted on 3/29/17 at 9:24 am to BaddestAndvari
quote:Everyone has a choice.
please go on, I'm waiting on pins and needles how you know this person has a choice, an anonymous person on the internet
quote:The planet is a big place if it's so important to you.
Oh, and I have no choice where I live
Posted on 3/29/17 at 9:25 am to CorporateTiger
quote:oh the. Irony.
quote:
set up your own ISP. Simple as that.
With all of the monopolistic regulations the telecom industry has pushed through on the local level? Yeah that is realistic.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 9:25 am to League Champs
Not comparable services at all. Jesus some of you guys are just desperate to sell out these companies.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 9:26 am to iPadThai
Basic "rights" of the internet have now been infringed upon. We must out every snake involved in this vile decesion.
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