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re: Teams are passing on Colin Kaepernick because they think he is too much of an activist

Posted on 6/25/17 at 7:37 pm to
Posted by TimeOutdoors
AK
Member since Sep 2014
12123 posts
Posted on 6/25/17 at 7:37 pm to
I can't speak for rednecks, but American Patriots would be upset.
Posted by weptiger
Georgia
Member since Feb 2007
10333 posts
Posted on 6/25/17 at 7:43 pm to
Freedom of speech/expression in no way alleviate you from the consequences of your words and actions. Combine that with mediocre job performance and it is not difficult to see that he remains a free agent.
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
16095 posts
Posted on 6/25/17 at 8:43 pm to
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Bro I never claimed we had a free market. I never even made anything close to that assertion. Child labor laws, poor working conditions, price gouging...no one forces anyone to work somewhere or buy something....except government

I'm taken back by your failure to comprehend the major pitfalls of this issue. The issue is not where you are forced to do something. The issue is where you are allowed to exploit human beings. Prostitution is illegal because it allows for the exploitation of human beings. It creates unsafe working conditions and takes advantage of underprivileged and vulnerable individuals. There is no scenario where child labor is acceptable. Price gouging is also unacceptable. Yet the free market would utilize a utilitarian approach and could use these methods but cover them up (i.e. International sweat shops).

It is the government who keeps the greed of corporate organizations from tapping into these practices. So back to CK, we need to be careful that we don't support unethical business practices just because we are offended by the individual who is the victim of the censorship.
Posted by golfntiger32
Ohio
Member since Oct 2013
12486 posts
Posted on 6/25/17 at 8:49 pm to
Obviously, there are a couple things at play here.

1- He is statistically a terrible QB, especially the last few years.

2- HIs political stances are a display of borderline mental illness.

If he was worth a shite as a playmaker teams would look past number 2, however he is not so number 2 ruins him completely.
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
16095 posts
Posted on 6/25/17 at 9:24 pm to
You're probably right.
This post was edited on 6/25/17 at 9:25 pm
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 6/25/17 at 9:48 pm to
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I'm taken back by your failure to comprehend the major pitfalls of this issue.


No youre not, you are just being dramatic.

quote:

Prostitution is illegal because it allows for the exploitation of human beings. It creates unsafe working conditions and takes advantage of underprivileged and vulnerable individuals.


Prostitution is illegal bro. Im guessing you are going to stay with "gotcha" emotional arguments in favor of government intervention in the the market. I cant logically refute your emotions bro.


Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38271 posts
Posted on 6/25/17 at 9:50 pm to
The NFL is a private organization.

They can "fire" him or "blackball" him for whatever reason really.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
19045 posts
Posted on 6/25/17 at 9:56 pm to
It's about the dollars. His actions last season turned a lot of fans off and in return the fans turned off the NFL. The owners are simply responding to the paying customer who doesn't want to be subjected to his antics or to the antics of anyone who wants to join in. The NFL isn't going to damage their product over 1 swj, average qb.
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
16095 posts
Posted on 6/25/17 at 10:52 pm to
So you don't understand the dynamic equivalence of human trafficking, prostitution, child labor, etc? If it weren't for government regulations these could be practices.
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
11430 posts
Posted on 6/25/17 at 11:06 pm to
He is a distraction and an employer has the right and need to provide a harmonious work environment, even in football. He was dumb as a bag of rocks to do what he did and I wouldn't trust him as my quarterback
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
11281 posts
Posted on 6/25/17 at 11:19 pm to
He's a sub 60% completion guy

A distraction

And who knows what he actually expects. If he came out saying he'd be a happy backup at league minimum he'd be signed by morning.

If he wants to compete to start and be paid accordingly- even without extracurricular activity he'd be unsigned
Posted by Duzz
Houston
Member since Feb 2008
9966 posts
Posted on 6/25/17 at 11:59 pm to
It's funny that the media is trying to force NFL team to pay Colin Kapernick millions just to play football. It's not their millions it's the NFL owners. Their defense is always "He just wants to play!"

Play him a thousand a game and see if Colin would turn his noise or not.
Posted by reverendotis
the jawbone of an arse
Member since Nov 2007
4867 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 5:10 am to
Poor mulatto boy, taken in and raised by a white family, received the love and support that enabled him to pursue a career that made him a millionaire was CLEARLY beset by racism and must protest.
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 6:12 am to
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made him a millionaire was CLEARLY beset by racism and must protest.




Mulatto Guilt
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 6:20 am to
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Maybe they are passing on him begause he's not that good

This is the answer to the question no one is asking
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89518 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 7:16 am to
He's not a particularly good QB anymore. They should just pass for that reason alone.

However, I respect their interests in protecting their businesses over the optics of being perceived as being against his political (religious?) beliefs.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22376 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 7:22 am to
NFL teams don't want a mediocre player (their back up QB in this case) to be a distraction to the rest of the team. This isn't political in nature. If he had his own reality series, teams would probably do the same thing.

This is identical to the Tebow situation. Coaches don't want to have to constantly answer questions about a reserve player.
This post was edited on 6/26/17 at 7:25 am
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
16095 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 8:26 am to
Other than SF and Seattle most teams would receive a huge backlash for picking him up. Added, he would be a huge distraction off the field. Throw in there he is not a big help on the field. I get it.
Posted by the_watcher
Jarule's House
Member since Nov 2005
3450 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 8:57 am to
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Other than SF and Seattle most teams would receive a huge backlash for picking him up. Added, he would be a huge distraction off the field. Throw in there he is not a big help on the field. I get it.


Do you get it? Kaepernick averaged 186.75 yards passing per game last season. For comparison, the 25th ranked qb in the league averaged 228 (Marcus Mariota). Kaepernick isn't good. End of story. His talents do not exceed his problems.

Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady could pledge allegience to ISIS and they would still start on Sundays. When you throw for less than 200 yards a game you can't afford to disrespect your country and the police officers who protect it daily.
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
12934 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 9:09 am to
NFL is a private company that in large part is really a brand. They are all about protecting the brand. If Colin wanted to be a football player that's fine if he is good enough.

But - he ain't THAT good, and he is using the NFL brand to leverage his own agenda. That's no bueno. Roger ain't gonna stand for that shite.
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