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re: Supreme Court rules against 'Straw Purchasers' of Guns

Posted on 6/16/14 at 11:10 pm to
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 6/16/14 at 11:10 pm to
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Sentrius


This decision is just ridiculous.

Tom gives me the money to buy him a (name your firearm of choice/fear here). I buy it. I then gift it to him or sell it to him for $1 (depending on state laws). If you can't privately sell or gift a firearm in a given state, you just say you did the exchange in a state where it's legal and Congress can suck a dick.
Posted by L.A.
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Posted on 6/16/14 at 11:15 pm to
Tell me again where that feature is.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 6/16/14 at 11:21 pm to
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This decision is just ridiculous.

Tom gives me the money to buy him a (name your firearm of choice/fear here). I buy it. I then gift it to him or sell it to him for $1 (depending on state laws). If you can't privately sell or gift a firearm in a given state, you just say you did the exchange in a state where it's legal and Congress can suck a dick.


Agreed. It's a poor decision and should remind us that SCOTUS is not infallible, they are human just like us and make human errors.

Anthony Kennedy was the one who provided that swing vote. I think he's a good example of the moderate or conservative gun control advocates go after to to build up a successful compromise. People like him are the crack in the dam so to speak.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
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Posted on 6/16/14 at 11:24 pm to
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Tell me again where that feature is.




You just used it fine. I can't see it anyway since I don't have admin privileges from Chicken or Circus Child. It's a feature I wish y'all would use more btw.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 6/16/14 at 11:42 pm to
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Serious question.... How can Righties claim that laws against straw purchases are violations of the 2nd Amendment on one hand, then blame the Obama administration for the deaths of those killed by guns purchased in fast and furious, an ATF operation which allowed illegal straw purchases?
Are you sure this is a serious question?

You can't tell the difference between a government agency charged with enforcing the law, violating the law, for the distinct purpose of putting guns into the hands of criminals... and a private citizen making a purchase then giving a gift to another law abiding citizen?

You can't tell the difference? Really?

There are thousands of ways the transaction could have been conducted legally, with no difference in result. For example had he taken the money only an hour later. No such remediation for F&F exists.
This post was edited on 6/16/14 at 11:55 pm
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57189 posts
Posted on 6/16/14 at 11:52 pm to
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Amazing how the words "well regulated militia" are just forgotten.
Not forgotten. You simply don't understand what it means.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20406 posts
Posted on 6/17/14 at 12:47 am to
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Amazing how the words "well regulated militia" are just forgotten.
also funny how the word PEOPLE is never mentioned by antis. The right of the people, not the fedgov, not the militia, not the army, the people.
Posted by L.A.
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 12:52 am to
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You just used it fine.
I pressed the button but couldn't see anything happening. Honestly, I forget the thing is there. Glad you can see the result.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 12:57 am to
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Not forgotten. You simply don't understand what it means.


Then by all means, explain it to me.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57189 posts
Posted on 6/17/14 at 1:20 am to
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Then by all means, explain it to me.

You need more help than I can provide. Try google.
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64652 posts
Posted on 6/17/14 at 4:03 am to
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explain it to me.



Bad Request - Invalid URL
This post was edited on 6/17/14 at 4:53 am
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 6/17/14 at 4:28 am to
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The opponents of the 2nd Amendment never rest, despite the protestations of some misguided souls on this board


***cough***VoiceOfRetardation***cough***
Posted by Armymann50
Playing with my
Member since Sep 2011
17047 posts
Posted on 6/17/14 at 4:40 am to
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You need more help
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 6/17/14 at 6:52 am to
seems rather impossible to enforce
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89506 posts
Posted on 6/17/14 at 7:15 am to
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seems rather impossible to enforce


No - they will go out of their way to enforce it - as opposed to immigration laws, for example.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63481 posts
Posted on 6/17/14 at 7:20 am to
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***cough***VoiceOfRetardation***cough***


Why do you think I'm an "opponent of the 2nd Amendment? Even Justice Scalia has stated (in the D.C. decision I believe) that it allows some degree of regulation.

I have no objection to law abiding citizens owning a gun.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89506 posts
Posted on 6/17/14 at 7:40 am to
Although the natural right of self-defense is not subject to your consent, in response to:

quote:

I have no objection to law abiding citizens owning a gun.


Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 6/17/14 at 7:52 am to
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You need more help than I can provide. Try google.



You don't know, do you?

Its OK. I didn't expect you to actually explain anything.
This post was edited on 6/17/14 at 7:52 am
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48282 posts
Posted on 6/17/14 at 7:54 am to
Haha. Oh the hypocrisy.
Posted by TheJacer
Member since Nov 2012
789 posts
Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:02 am to
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Vegas Bengal


You can't be serious lol. I can't figure out if the things you type on here are the result of ignorance or dishonesty...
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