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re: "Stop blaming black parents for underachieving kids"
Posted on 8/2/14 at 10:25 am to ballscaster
Posted on 8/2/14 at 10:25 am to ballscaster
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If you are born human, you are equal
this is only supposed to mean in the eyes of the law. it says nothing about the comparison of human-human
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Posted on 8/2/14 at 10:40 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Dumb thing to say in a conversation about people's ability to raise children in two-parent homes. Everybody is equally capable of not having kids they can't afford.
this is only supposed to mean in the eyes of the law. it says nothing about the comparison of human-human
Posted on 8/2/14 at 10:45 am to ballscaster
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Dumb thing to say in a conversation about people's ability to raise children in two-parent homes.
i don't think that was part of my discussion on this issue at all
Posted on 8/2/14 at 10:48 am to ballscaster
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Everybody is equally capable of not having kids they can't afford.
Now, you're getting into culture. If having children you cannot afford is 'the norm' in your culture then you are at a distinct disadvantage vis-a-vis someone raised in a culture where the norm is NOT having kids till you can afford them.
My parents did not get married until they were in their 30s. First (and only) marriage for both. No kids. I asked them why so late. Answer...'The Great Depression. People didn't get married till they could afford it. We were dating during the Depression and realized we couldn't get married or have kids till later.'
They were poor and uneducated. But they were from a culture that did not rely on a welfare system to support their children.
Posted on 8/2/14 at 11:07 am to Zach
Either they're equally capable or they aren't, regardless of culture and regardless of you making it about you and your parents.
They're equally capable.
They're equally capable.
Posted on 8/2/14 at 11:10 am to ballscaster
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Either they're equally capable or they aren't
no 2 persons (outside of certain twins) are equally capable of anything. that's the point of genetics
This post was edited on 8/2/14 at 11:10 am
Posted on 8/2/14 at 11:19 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:I can't agree with you since I am not a racist. I will just accept the simple fact that we are all 100% capable of not having children.
no 2 persons (outside of certain twins) are equally capable of anything. that's the point of genetics
Posted on 8/2/14 at 11:26 am to ballscaster
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I can't agree with you since I am not a racist.
wut?
my statement has nothing to do with race whatsoever. it applies to each individual human on earth and has no subjective valuation
Posted on 8/2/14 at 11:32 am to ballscaster
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I will just accept the simple fact that we are all 100% capable of not having children.
No one has argued that point. You keep shifting assertions. Everyone has the capacity to NOT have children. Everyone has the capacity to commit suicide. Everyone has the capacity to take a shite and eat it for dinner. That does not = "All humans are equal."
Posted on 8/2/14 at 12:17 pm to Zach
quote:Correct.
Everyone has the capacity to NOT have children.
quote:Correct. Rather, the former is predicated by the latter. The fact that all people are equal means that they are equally capable of not having children.
That does not = "All humans are equal."
Posted on 8/2/14 at 12:49 pm to SlowFlowPro
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wut
Goes to show you that some people are incapable of having a rational discussion on race. Or any social group without making silly accusations.
Posted on 8/2/14 at 10:23 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Yeah man, you should totally be able to say that blacks are less capable of raising kids than whites and not be labeled a racist. You rank and file Democrats are a hoot!
Posted on 8/2/14 at 10:54 pm to Zach
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They were poor and uneducated. But they were from a culture that did not rely on a welfare system to support their children
In their day there was no system to rely on, where today there are multiple government programs to rescue people form their acts of stupidity.
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