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re: Steeler/Tomlin outrage is complete nonsense
Posted on 9/26/17 at 4:32 pm to TheMuffinMan
Posted on 9/26/17 at 4:32 pm to TheMuffinMan
Tomlin's actions shows he hates veterans and real leaders.
He needs to go and does not represent the blue collar image of the steelers.
He needs to go and does not represent the blue collar image of the steelers.
This post was edited on 9/26/17 at 4:33 pm
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Posted on 9/26/17 at 4:33 pm to Draconian Sanctions
You are god damned right.
The left can do nothing without outrage.
Grinding back on those worthless mother frickers is fun
The left can do nothing without outrage.
Grinding back on those worthless mother frickers is fun
Posted on 9/26/17 at 4:34 pm to TheMuffinMan
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Team brainstorms
Football players - brainstorm does not compute
Posted on 9/26/17 at 4:39 pm to TheMuffinMan
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2) Can’t agree on any kind of public display, decide to remove themselves from the spotlight and remain as apolitical as possible.
Now be honest. Do you think a reasonable person couldn't have foreseen that skipping the Anthem would be viewed as a political statement? This is either the biggest blunder ever, or simply not the whole truth.
IMO, someone with power and influence was behind this decision and sold this to the players under the guise of being a team. The intent was most likely to make a political point by using the players.
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4) Tomlin expresses frustration with the politicization of the game, reinforces that the point was precisely to avoid putting the spotlight on the politics or any individual player.
hmmmm
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What the hell is everyone butthurt about?
If it was a mistake, someone simply needs to step up and admit the mistake. Then they need to apologize for it, and make a statement indicating what should have happened and what will happen moving forward. It's not that complicated.
As far as I know, that hasn't happened. Instead, they are trying to hide behind the "we didn't mean to be disrespectful" while ignoring that their action was extremely disrespectful.
This post was edited on 9/26/17 at 4:46 pm
Posted on 9/26/17 at 4:42 pm to TheMuffinMan
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Why does nobody seem to understand what happened here?
Agreed, it's nuts out there.
The left going apeshit over statues and taking knees is bad. The Trump/Right flipping the frick out over the Steelers, who were probably among the least problematic teams on Sunday, is just bizarrely stupid.
There is increasingly no space in our society for people who can think for themselves, regardless of which side you're on.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 4:45 pm to GFaceKillah
How about following the NFL rules? But then again you left fricketards don't follow rules and you sure as hell don't follow the law,
Your liberal ideology and your Media hacks are responsible for all this BS
This is on you Libs and you only !
So Fricke off you anti American A Holes
Your liberal ideology and your Media hacks are responsible for all this BS
This is on you Libs and you only !
So Fricke off you anti American A Holes
Posted on 9/26/17 at 4:48 pm to Pettifogger
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There is increasingly no space in our society for people who can think for themselves, regardless of which side you're on.
I'm pretty sure I think for myself. And, I have a real problem with a coach forcing a team to not show up for the anthem.
I'm willing to accept it being a very poor decision that backfired if someone would actually come out and state that and then explain what they should have done instead and what they will do moving forward.
But, that hasn't happened. Instead, they want to unilaterally decide that what they did wasn't disrespectful. They are doubling down on the decision that caused the problem.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 4:49 pm to TheMuffinMan
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4) Tomlin expresses frustration with the politicization of the game, reinforces that the point was precisely to avoid putting the spotlight on the politics or any individual player.
If that's the case then I was wrong about him
Posted on 9/26/17 at 4:54 pm to Lsuchs
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If that's the case then I was wrong about him
He solved the problem by having ALL of them skip the anthem. He can say it was meant to be apolitical. But, that doesn't make it the truth...and it certainly wasn't perceived as apolitical.
All he has to do is apologize, admit he was wrong, and state that they should have all stood for the Anthem as per the norm. If he felt the need to support the underlying cause behind the protests, he could have done that as well.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 4:56 pm to Pettifogger
quote:the Steelers were fine initially. Their problem came when they explained what happened. Since apparently you aren't thinking for yourself let me help you out with what they told us
he Trump/Right flipping the frick out over the Steelers, who were probably among the least problematic teams on Sunday, is just bizarrely stupi
Their coach told us he wanted the players to be 100%. Now their coach is not stupid. He knew exactly how the hundred percent would go. Hiding his players in the locker room was 100% about not having some players standing While others kneeled. And on that front he wasn't protecting the guys standing
Then the V thing happens and frankly I think that was just a case of V wanting to stand relatively inconspicuously. But dear fricking Lord whoever vetted that Bowe Bergdahl like statement should be fired immediately. Got lost in the tunnel? fricking really man. No one believed that.
The smart thing to do was when the reporters ask questions the answer should have been simply that the team made an internal decision and the Dynamics of it our internal. When asked about the V the answer should have been simple. I mean it was holyfrick simple. So simple even the most radical black lives matter person would have understood it
You simply say that for obvious reasons due to his background he felt it necessary to stand.
Instead they fricking train wrecked it and the reason a train wrecked it is obvious.
The reason is Tomlin didn't want people standing on the field. And because he felt that way he bungled explaining it in front of reporters
You know that's true and I know that's true.
And now the hazards of the internet are coming to life because now we know that Tomlin was an active participant in the last election which serves to explained why he made the choices he made and put his players in a shitty position
Posted on 9/26/17 at 5:04 pm to moneyg
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I'm pretty sure I think for myself. And, I have a real problem with a coach forcing a team to not show up for the anthem.
I've seen absolutely nothing indicating Tomlin "forced" the team not to show up for the anthem.
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I'm willing to accept it being a very poor decision that backfired if someone would actually come out and state that and then explain what they should have done instead and what they will do moving forward.
Not that you're being unreasonable, but I just don't care enough to call it a "very poor decision" or demand their plan for moving forward. They tried to avoid controversy and divisiveness by staying in the tunnel, and have sought to explain that it was not a team protest at all. Villanueva, the cult hero at this point, feels bad because he thinks his team is being wrongly judged. I'm just not sure why some grand apology and truth airing is necessary.
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But, that hasn't happened. Instead, they want to unilaterally decide that what they did wasn't disrespectful. They are doubling down on the decision that caused the problem.
I just don't get it. Are we really offended about this?
Posted on 9/26/17 at 5:06 pm to moneyg
From what I understand, he didn’t force them. He was just the one to make a decision when the team (predictably) couldn’t agree, and he did his best to make a politically neutral statement: stop distracting from football with all this anthem nonsense. Whether you think the optics of the decision are fine or not, it’s very clear from his statements what he was trying to do. And what he was trying to do *should have* appeased lots of people, so I think it’s remarkable the degree to which it’s blowing up in his face. And I empathize with his frustration at the no win situation, because it’s more clear than ever that both sides are just looking for something to bitch about.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 5:07 pm to TheMuffinMan
Boycott not going as expected.
5 tickets on Stubhub for this Sunday's matchup with Jax.
5 tickets on Stubhub for this Sunday's matchup with Jax.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 5:08 pm to ShortyRob
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The reason is Tomlin didn't want people standing on the field. And because he felt that way he bungled explaining it in front of reporters
Haha there is literally no evidence of this being true. All evidence is that Tomlin wanted to avoid a spectacle and knew that some of his guys weren't going to stand. I'd like to think he didn't want the Steelers to be punished for what a couple guys wanted to do, not that he wanted to shield the potential kneeling guys from criticism.
But honestly, I don't really give a shite either way. Everything Tomlin has said makes sense and even Villanueva has come out and covered for his team.
Why aren't we spending more time shitting on the guys who did protest the anthem than the guys who tried to avoid the situation? Makes no fricking sense.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 5:14 pm to TheMuffinMan
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Why does nobody seem to understand what happened here?
Nobody wants to understand it. If they did, they wouldn't be able to melt about it.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 5:15 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Nobody wants to understand it. If they did, they wouldn't be able to melt about it.
This incident is one of the most SJW-like actions of the right I've seen in a long time
Posted on 9/26/17 at 5:16 pm to Pettifogger
quote:really there is. I don't expect you to acknowledge it. And I'm fine with that.
Haha there is literally no evidence of this being true
quote:actually that's not true at all. Some of what Tomlin has said is completely at odds with the later explanations. Again I don't expect you to acknowledge that and I'm fine with that.
But honestly, I don't really give a shite either way. Everything Tomlin has said makes sense and even Villanueva has come out and covered for his team.
quote:I'm seeing pretty much across the board condemnation so I'm not really sure what you're looking at
Why aren't we spending more time shitting on the guys who did protest the anthem than the guys who tried to avoid the situation? Makes no fricking sense.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 5:18 pm to Pettifogger
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This incident is one of the most SJW-like actions of the right I've seen in a long time
It's been extremely entertaining. Reminds me of the Target "boycott" except they actually consume the NFL brand.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 5:18 pm to ShortyRob
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really there is. I don't expect you to acknowledge it. And I'm fine with that.
Zero. You can't articulate it because it doesn't exist. Saying "I don't expect you to acknowledge it" is a total cop out.
I don't know your motivations for being dishonest, but I just can't see how it's justified here.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 5:19 pm to ShortyRob
Can you do me the courtesy of posting what Tomlin said that’s contradictory? The snippets I’ve seen are clear as day
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