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Steeler/Tomlin outrage is complete nonsense
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:37 pm
Why does nobody seem to understand what happened here?
1) Team brainstorms ideas to present a united message that respects all team members’ perspectives.
2) Can’t agree on any kind of public display, decide to remove themselves from the spotlight and remain as apolitical as possible.
3) One player shortsightedly breaks rank, but with ostensibly honorable intentions.
4) Tomlin expresses frustration with the politicization of the game, reinforces that the point was precisely to avoid putting the spotlight on the politics or any individual player.
5) Player apologizes in seemingly genuine fashion.
What the hell is everyone butthurt about? The goalposts are being moved all over the place. You clamor for the athletes and coaches to preserve the apolitical entertainment of sports, then their best effort yet gets torn to shreds
Now its an assault on the anthem that the athletes were in the locker room, as they were in college and in decades past in the NFL? Tomlin is a racist now? Why is everyone so goddamn stupid?
1) Team brainstorms ideas to present a united message that respects all team members’ perspectives.
2) Can’t agree on any kind of public display, decide to remove themselves from the spotlight and remain as apolitical as possible.
3) One player shortsightedly breaks rank, but with ostensibly honorable intentions.
4) Tomlin expresses frustration with the politicization of the game, reinforces that the point was precisely to avoid putting the spotlight on the politics or any individual player.
5) Player apologizes in seemingly genuine fashion.
What the hell is everyone butthurt about? The goalposts are being moved all over the place. You clamor for the athletes and coaches to preserve the apolitical entertainment of sports, then their best effort yet gets torn to shreds
Now its an assault on the anthem that the athletes were in the locker room, as they were in college and in decades past in the NFL? Tomlin is a racist now? Why is everyone so goddamn stupid? 
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Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:37 pm to TheMuffinMan
quote:
Why does nobody seem to understand what happened here?
right wing outrage culture
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:38 pm to TheMuffinMan
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Now its an assault on the anthem that the athletes were in the locker room, as they were in college and in decades past in the NFL? Tomlin is a racist now? Why is everyone so goddamn stupid?
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:38 pm to TheMuffinMan
Their mental gymnastics are comprehensible and clear
They're also so fricking stupid it makes me laugh out loud. No one is buying it. No one is upset. Sit back and enjoy the fire
They're also so fricking stupid it makes me laugh out loud. No one is buying it. No one is upset. Sit back and enjoy the fire
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:39 pm to TheMuffinMan
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What the hell is everyone butthurt about?
trump threw out some red meat to his base and now they are in a feeding frenzy.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:41 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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right wing outrage culture
Time out.
It's the right wing that has an outrage culture problem?
Really?
Really?
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:41 pm to TheMuffinMan
Tomlin should have known that the players would never be able to all agree on something like a public demonstration so he failed the team by putting it on them to decide that's not leadership that's coward
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:42 pm to TigerFanatic99
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It's the right wing that has an outrage culture problem?
Really?
Yes
although notice nowhere did i say there wasn't a left wing outrage machine as well.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:44 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Um people are kneeling in protest of Trump lol. That's not "left wing outrage culture?" What about shutting down free speech and rioting? L
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:44 pm to Draconian Sanctions
quote:
although notice nowhere did i say there wasn't a left wing outrage machine as well.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:45 pm to TheMuffinMan
They're pissed when they kneel during the anthem.
They're pissed when they kneel before the anthem but stand for the actual anthem.
They're pissed when they just stay out of the way.
Maybe the problem is trying to use logic with Poliboard types that are just determined to be pissed off all the time.
They're pissed when they kneel before the anthem but stand for the actual anthem.
They're pissed when they just stay out of the way.
Maybe the problem is trying to use logic with Poliboard types that are just determined to be pissed off all the time.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:48 pm to Walking the Earth
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Maybe the problem is trying to use logic with Poliboard types that are just determined to be pissed off all the time.
But none of us are pissed when they do it in the way it's supposed to be done.
You left that option out.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:48 pm to Walking the Earth
Or maybe they could just stand? Nah.
FWIW I am glad the left gets to see some of the same "outrage" they throw around so frequently.
FWIW I am glad the left gets to see some of the same "outrage" they throw around so frequently.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:49 pm to TheMuffinMan
If they dont have the patriotism to come out and stand for the national anthem they can kiss my arse.
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Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:49 pm to TheMuffinMan
quote:Wait. Wut?
1) Team brainstorms ideas to present a united message that respects all team members’ perspectives.
quote:Which, by definition, catered to ONE perspective.
2) Can’t agree on any kind of public display, decide to remove themselves from the spotlight and remain as apolitical as possible.
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3) One player shortsightedly breaks rank, but with ostensibly honorable intentions.
This is actually the most awesome part. The guy who wants to stand is the "shortsighted" one. Let's just imagine if the vote had miraculously gone 51% to go out. And a few, or even one guy stayed IN to avoid standing. I'm sure your view would be that he was "shortsighted".
quote:Tomlin took a fricking vote that was more guaranteed than those in the former USSR.
4) Tomlin expresses frustration with the politicization of the game, reinforces that the point was precisely to avoid putting the spotlight on the politics or any individual player.
quote:Player almost certainly, despite his desire to stand, had no desire to become the focal point. Unfortunately, his team forced him to make a choice between what he felt was right and their petty shite. Then, he felt bad because he, like the way I teach my kids, didn't want to let his team down.
5) Player apologizes in seemingly genuine fashion.
quote:Butt hurt? The NFL has taken a position. Tomlin took a position.
What the hell is everyone butthurt about?
It would have been business savvy to not take a position.
But, they did. I can't help that they did.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:50 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Yes although notice nowhere did i say there wasn't a left wing outrage machine as well.
Typical liberal.
Wants the right to unilaterally disarm..........Alinskyite........what can ya say
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:51 pm to TigerFanatic99
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Time out. It's the right wing that has an outrage culture problem? Really?
I’m veeeery anti-outrage/trigger/nanoaggression, which makes me despise the progressive position in the vast majority of instances. I’ve thought the kneeling was dumb and misguided from the start. This is just the inflection point where the right wing baws have started hypocritically indulging en masse in the very virtue signaling and manufactured outrage that they otherwise rightfully condemn.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:53 pm to Homesick Tiger
how is it supposed to be done? i would love to hear this explanation
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:57 pm to hawkeye007
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how is it supposed to be done? i would love to hear this explanation
Exactly as stated in the NFL's rulebook. How is this so difficult to understand?
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:58 pm to ShortyRob
Dude I don’t like the anthem protests You pitch this scenario where the vote is 51% as if that’s not the actual situation; that’s what happened. They did not vote unanimously on what to do. It could’ve been 90% stand, 8% kneel, 2% other, who gives a shite. The result was that they stayed inside because that was determined to be the apolitical move. You can disagree with that, but as I already said, that’s what college players still do and the NFL used to do, and nobody had a problem with it then. It seems like most people on the right were hoping for the teams to decide to choose their “side” on the anthem issue, even though they’ve claimed to this point that they want to stop having athletes’ political views shoved down their throats.
You pitch this scenario where the vote is 51% as if that’s not the actual situation; that’s what happened. They did not vote unanimously on what to do. It could’ve been 90% stand, 8% kneel, 2% other, who gives a shite. The result was that they stayed inside because that was determined to be the apolitical move. You can disagree with that, but as I already said, that’s what college players still do and the NFL used to do, and nobody had a problem with it then. It seems like most people on the right were hoping for the teams to decide to choose their “side” on the anthem issue, even though they’ve claimed to this point that they want to stop having athletes’ political views shoved down their throats. This post was edited on 9/26/17 at 2:10 pm
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