re: So Asians make more money on average than whites in the US

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I would argue that most immigrants were probably more intelligent than their peers and had the means and confidence to realize they would do better somewhere else unless of course they were a fugitive.

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I wouldn't say most immigrants were more intelligent, I'd say most immigrants back in the day were adventurous, or they were running from something (the law, religious persecution, war or famine).

I'd guess they were more independent and willing to take a chance.

But I'm just opining. I really don't know.

[quote]What would do the trick, IYO? What is truly neccessary from outside of the AA community in order to see that result attained? Is there anything alone, completely external to the AA community, that can guarantee it? [/quote

Social justice. I'm not for entitlements and handouts for prolonged periods because they can provide too much of a safety net or should I say "complacency" but I do think if we could be more just in terms of healthcare, laws, justice, finance, home owners loans, education etc, plus a little more sympathetic, it would go along way.

Changing hearts is harder than asking people to give their $.

I believe AAs are fully capable of bringing themselves up economically if the social constructs are equal and justice for all people.

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Gotta know where your from to get where your going.

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Bull!

The beauty of American Exceptionalism our indifference to origin or background.

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Let's not devalue being able to trace your heritage.

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Now, here I agree.
Perhaps the single most important message Malcolm X brought us in his short life was the "X" itself.
It is an irrefutable message.

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Social justice. I'm not for entitlements and handouts for prolonged periods because they can provide too much of a safety net or should I say "complacency" but I do think if we could be more just in terms of healthcare, laws, justice, finance, home owners loans, education etc, plus a little more sympathetic, it would go along way. Changing hearts is harder than asking people to give their $. I believe AAs are fully capable of bringing themselves up economically if the social constructs are equal and justice for all people.

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A whole lot of words without a single one meaning a damn thing. Honestly, there is not a single actionable item in your entire post.

Would you really find it that difficult to be more precise and less nebulous?

I guess I shouldn't be surprised by the lack of history in regards to Asians on this board. Our education system is such a joke. Truth is Asians were an integral part of American history. Those who think Asians had it easy think about this: blacks suffered under slavery and Jim Crow and segregation, but they had supporters and people who spoke up and marched. Did you ever see the white man speak up in support of Asians? You don't think Asians suffered under Jim Crow laws? There at least were black restrooms and businesses that served them. Do you think, outside of congregations of Asians in bigger cities, they were able to find jobs or help in any way? They suffered just as badly and even worse. They were lynched, but you never heard about it.

Their accomplishments and contributions to American history are all but ignored. They were conscripted and forced into labor camps. Forced to build the railroads that helped unite this country. They are a people who don't get much credit yet are never the first to complain.

The Japanese Americans who lost everything during WWII have certainly not complained nearly as much as any other group that has a grievance with this country. It is amazing what a disparate group of people are able to accomplish when they work hard, stay out of trouble, and use their heads to do things instead of figuring out who to blame.

Perhaps it's race or culture. It's hard to say and there is a lot of generalizing here. I think the point is on the whole Asians seem to do well wherever they go while blacks seem to ..... Well not so much. Seen a nice black neighborhood lately?

The overwhelming majority of us are against ILLEGAL immigration, dude.

Funny how often idiots like you seem to forget that one little word.

I believe accepting hard working, energetic immigrants who wanted in on a good thing is necessary for our overall success and that fact is evident in our past history.

But immigration should be regulated for obvious reasons.

When someone is "Asian" are they chinese, japanese, malay?

I whole heartily disagree with the stereo type "Asians" receive for being smarter and harder working.

I have lived in south Asia now for 1.5 years. The "Asians" that are in the states are the ones who escaped from Asia. Asian's as a population are not genetically gifted by any means.

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I do think if we could be more just in terms of healthcare, laws, justice, finance, home owners loans, education etc, plus a little more sympathetic, it would go along way.

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How could we be more just in these things, IYO?