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re: Senate Democrats to filibuster Trump SCOTUS nominee regardless of who it is

Posted on 1/30/17 at 1:36 pm to
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 1/30/17 at 1:36 pm to
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Only because we accept it.



Sure, and that goes back to the point I made a few pages back. Which side is going to step up and break the cycle? Which side is going to put aside this petty politics, and make more pragmatic decisions? As I see it, neither side has been willing to do that over the past couple of decades.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73479 posts
Posted on 1/30/17 at 1:38 pm to
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past couple of decades.
Bush was pretty compromising with the Dems imo.
Posted by tiderider
Member since Nov 2012
7703 posts
Posted on 1/30/17 at 1:39 pm to
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The US Senate voted on Thursday to change the rules that have enabled Republicans to block Barack Obama's nominees for top administration posts.

By 52 votes to 48, senators approved along partisan lines a measure that would ban the use of the filibuster to prevent nominees from being confirmed.

In a speech in support of the measure, majority leader Harry Reid accused Republicans of blocking nominees in the pursuit of unrelated legislative goals.

"For the first time in the history of our republic, Republicans have routinely used the filibuster to prevent President Obama from appointing an executive team and from appointing judges," Reid said. "The need for change is so, so very obvious. It's clearly visible. It's manifest we have to do something to change things."

Until now, 60 votes have been required to lift or avoid a filibuster. Under the new rules, a simple majority of 51 would suffice. The new measure would not apply to supreme court nominees. "It's an undeniable fact that the obstruction we've seen in recent years is altogether new," Reid said after the vote.


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Republicans have warned, however, that Democrats may regret the move when they next find themselves in the minority. "Some of us have been here long enough to know the shoe is sometimes on the other foot," minority leader Mitch McConnell said, on the Senate floor. "You'll regret this, and you may regret it a lot sooner than you think."


The article does say it does not cover Supreme Court nominations, but I find it funny nonetheless.

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except pubs didn't actually have to filibuster anything (nor the dems) ... it's the threat of a filibuster, which is astoundingly stupid ... they won't even carry out an actual filibuster ...
Posted by a want
I love everybody
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 1/30/17 at 1:41 pm to
I mean....what did you expect?

They'll force the GOP to go nuclear. That's their only play.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36211 posts
Posted on 1/30/17 at 1:42 pm to
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unity.


It's what the losers ask for, and the winners disregard.

If you legitimately do what you feel is best for the nation, and your political opposition believes in trying to stop you at all costs then you do what you have to do.

Obama, Pelosi and Reid made that perfectly clear in 2009. They did everything in their power to accomplish their agenda and carried the day. That's how we got Obamacare.

Now they are out of power. Now the voters have spoken and enough voters in enough states said a change was necessary. We got a new president and we maintained a new congress.

Trump would welcome those to his side. Those that want to protect our borders, protect our jobs, protect our resources, and make America great again. Sadly too many want to give away our resources, undermine our security, and aid those who are our enemies at the expense of our people.

Trump understand the stakes, and he has to win at all costs because for too long others have not put America first.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 1/30/17 at 1:44 pm to
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Bush was pretty compromising with the Dems imo.



Yeah, as soon as I hit "submit" on that comment, I had second thoughts. Clinton was pretty compromising as well. I think the toxicity really started ramping up during Bush's 2nd term.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140732 posts
Posted on 1/30/17 at 1:45 pm to
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"For the first time in the history of our republic, Republicans have routinely used the filibuster to prevent President Obama from appointing an executive team and from appointing judges," Reid said. "The need for change is so, so very obvious. It's clearly visible. It's manifest we have to do something to change things.


This quote will likely be altered and used by the Republicans.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73548 posts
Posted on 1/30/17 at 1:46 pm to
People are paying more attention now too. The dems are about to lose yet again.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73479 posts
Posted on 1/30/17 at 1:47 pm to
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Clinton was pretty compromising as well.
True triangulation and a bloody misterm made him a pragmatic president.

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I think the toxicity really started ramping up during Bush's 2nd term.
Once his approval rating soared post 9-11 it was inevitable they needed to tear him down.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35242 posts
Posted on 1/30/17 at 1:49 pm to
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Once his approval rating soared post 9-11 it was inevitable they needed to tear him down.
Well as the nation found out how costly and unnecessary the war was, he didn't really help his cause--despite what I believe were good, but misguided (probably by others), intentions.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73479 posts
Posted on 1/30/17 at 1:51 pm to
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Well as the nation found out how costly and unnecessary the war was, he didn't really help his cause--despite what I believe were good, but misguided (probably by others), intentions.
rue, however the whisper campaign by the likes of Reid and Clinton early on had zero to do with the war, they needed to knock down the approval rating for political reasons.
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 1/30/17 at 1:54 pm to
Yep. And you seem to agree with it based on your prior words.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48672 posts
Posted on 1/30/17 at 2:03 pm to
Nice catch. A compromise means rubber stamping.
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
22480 posts
Posted on 1/30/17 at 2:03 pm to
Ruth Bader Ginsburg - You're on the clock.
Posted by griswold
Member since Oct 2009
4043 posts
Posted on 1/30/17 at 2:27 pm to
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well the republicans did it to them so it's only fair. As much as I hate to say that
C'mon man! The only time the weenie republicans grew a pair and opposed a SCOTUS appointee by Barry was after the Demwits killed Scalia. Plus they referenced the Biden rule.... No appointments in an election year. All of Barry's other nominees sailed through.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 1/30/17 at 2:29 pm to
give Merrick the seat or wait 2 more years to see if you can get to 60.

Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 1/30/17 at 2:34 pm to
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The argument doesn't work. It was during an election year with a lame duck POTUS.

This is completely the opposite of that.




Does any Republican even know what "lame duck" means?

A president (or other office holder) is considered a "lame duck" if he/she ran for re-election, was defeated, but has not yet left office because some of the term remains. It is sometimes misused to include a president who was not running for re-election during the period after his/her successor has been elected but before the successor has taken office.

In no situation is the term applicable to any office holder simply because he/she is in his/her last term or the last year of his/her term. The term for president is four years, not three. The idiotic argument by you and others like you that there was some justification for the GOP to blatantly refuse to do its constitutional duty is complete bullshite, and being in ANY way upset or critical whatsoever of Dems for doing it is beyond hypocritical.

But stupidity and hypocrisy are all in a day's work for the post-factual alt-right Trump era.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36211 posts
Posted on 1/30/17 at 2:42 pm to
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Does any Republican even know what "lame duck" means?


This one does, and obviously you do not. Quit embarrassing yourself man.

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Definition of lame duck


1:
one that is weak or that falls behind in ability or achievement; especially, chiefly British:
an ailing company


2:
an elected official or group continuing to hold political office during the period between the election and the inauguration of a successor


3:
one whose position or term of office will soon end


From Meriam-Webster
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111148 posts
Posted on 1/30/17 at 2:47 pm to
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Trump has made clear he wants McConnell to go nuclear
I knew giving Trump the codes was a bad idea!!!!!



But seriously, for a novice like me, what does "nuclear" mean in this discussion?
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
15112 posts
Posted on 1/30/17 at 2:48 pm to
I say let them filibuster the SCOTUS pick, and wait before using the nuclear option until after the 2018 elections. Hammer all of the Trump states that have sitting Dems up for re-election that their incumbent senator has been obstructing for 2 years. See how that ends up for them.
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