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re: S. Carolina voids conviction of 14 year old accused murderer
Posted on 12/18/14 at 4:31 pm to weagle99
Posted on 12/18/14 at 4:31 pm to weagle99
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Another bit of irony is that those of you who are implying that others are racists are using the race of the jury to form your opinions on their motives. By virtue of their white skin they were unable to fairly mete out justice right?
In 1944, a white jury in South Carolina considering the case of a black boy supposedly having murdered 2 white girls? I'm quite comfortable answering - yes, you are correct. That jury was most likely incapable of objectively meting out justice. BECAUSE they were white. I don't consider this to be even a marginally controversial position. You seem to have a very limited understanding of what Jim Crow actually was.
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 4:35 pm to weagle99
quote:By virtue of their peers' black skin they were unable to mete out justice because they weren't allowed to vote or serve on a jury.
By virtue of their white skin they were unable to fairly mete out justice right?
I can't believe how dumb you are.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 4:40 pm to ballscaster
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REG861 BigScrub, weagle99
I haven't seen such a horribly argued debate in quite some time from this many people outside of an old taping of Crossfire. Jesus
This post was edited on 12/18/14 at 4:41 pm
Posted on 12/18/14 at 4:43 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
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haven't seen such a horribly argued debate in quite some time from this many people outside of an old taping of Crossfire. Jesus
I'm not "arguing" anything.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 4:48 pm to ballscaster
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By virtue of their peers' black skin they were unable to mete out justice because they weren't allowed to vote or serve on a jury.
So all white people in the south were racists during this time? None of them could legitimately serve on a jury involving a black defendant because of the color of their skin? The only way a black person could get justice was if there were blacks on the jury?
If this is true, why aren't we overturning more convictions?
This post was edited on 12/18/14 at 4:49 pm
Posted on 12/18/14 at 4:49 pm to Big Scrub TX
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I'm not "arguing" anything
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 4:52 pm to weagle99
quote:All of this is irrelevant. In this specific case this specific child was not given the fair trial according to his Constitutional rights as a citizen, and because of it, the State executed him without knowing for certain that he was guilty as charged. What the frick is wrong with you?
So all white people in the south were racists during this time? None of them could legitimately serve on a jury involving a black defendant because of the color of their skin? The only way a black person could get justice was if there were blacks on the jury?
If this is true, why aren't we overturning more convictions?
This post was edited on 12/18/14 at 4:54 pm
Posted on 12/18/14 at 4:53 pm to ballscaster
If it is irrelevant why are you talking about blacks not being able to serve on the jury? What rabbit hole are we in again?
Posted on 12/18/14 at 4:57 pm to weagle99
quote:Read the quote right above my addressing that; there's your answer. It's the purpose of the quote function. Why don't you know stuff?
If it is irrelevant why are you talking about blacks not being able to serve on the jury?
Posted on 12/18/14 at 5:14 pm to weagle99
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So all white people in the south were racists during this time?
Yep, the vast majority. I'm also unaware of any white-led attempts at armed revolt against the terrorist Jim Crow regimes in place for many decades. So to that extent that there were many non-racists, they never publicly displayed their displeasure in any meaningful way at the rotten state of affairs.
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None of them could legitimately serve on a jury involving a black defendant because of the color of their skin?
In theory they COULD. In practice, I would be terrified as a black defendant to have sat in judgment by the white ruling class.
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The only way a black person could get justice was if there were blacks on the jury?
Probably not even then. The only way a black person could get justice was a dismantling of the capricious, rotten and evil system that what in place for the purposes of reigning dominion over them.
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If this is true, why aren't we overturning more convictions?
Why don't you ask whomever you think would be able to answer those questions? My guess is because this was explicitly a capital case (involving a minor no less).
Posted on 12/18/14 at 5:58 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
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I haven't seen such a horribly argued debate in quite some time from this many people outside of an old taping of Crossfire. Jesus
So what side are you on? You either think a 14 year old was executed unjustly, or you don't. Are we supposed to be impressed by your sideline criticisms?
This post was edited on 12/18/14 at 5:58 pm
Posted on 12/18/14 at 5:59 pm to weagle99
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If it is irrelevant why are you talking about blacks not being able to serve on the jury? What rabbit hole are we in again?
If you'd like to get back on track, when are you going to respond to the facts I put forth which directly contradicted your fantasy scenario of what happened that day?
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