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re: Rush Limbaugh pouts about potential black James Bond

Posted on 12/24/14 at 10:26 am to
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 12/24/14 at 10:26 am to
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I'm still not use to James Bond being a blonde.

Hey, even a white male with dark hair replacing a white male with dark hair can be unsettling.

Elizabeth Montgomery playing Samantha in BEWITCHED had her husband Darren replaced with another Darren. No explanation. First Darren didn't die or get divorced. He just changed into another guy.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 12/24/14 at 10:28 am to
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Elizabeth Montgomery playing Samantha in BEWITCHED had her husband Darren replaced with another Darren. No explanation. First Darren didn't die or get divorced. He just changed into another guy.
Well, she was a witch. They can do all kinda of crazy shite.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 12/24/14 at 10:33 am to
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Yes, the character is Scottish


That's even up for dispute. "Bond" was a name Fleming took from an American ornithologist - he wanted as bland a name as possible.

As far as background - Fleming didn't mention Scottish until the first novel written after Connery played the character in film, Dr. No. Even then, he hedged and made Bond's mother Swiss.

Now - does James Bond have to be "white"? Of course not. I would challenge Rush on that preconception. There is a significant black population in the U.K. The fact that he has always been "white" is a starting point. The biography would have to be radically altered - in my humble opinion - if it were updated that far, to the point where a different character (Hollywood - maybe a new character? A new product that is neither constrained be or stepping on old traditions and the fans of the existing product, maybe?) might be in order.

Interesting to note - the Bond franchise is so extensive, film-wise, it is one of the rare examples I can think of where a character (in this case, CIA agent Felix Leiter) has been played, variously, over the years by black and white actors.

Tropic Thunder kind of poked fun at the idea of a white character actor playing a black character in the film-within-a-film context.

And, to the broader point, I agree that James Bond makes sense as a white character - just based on the history of this fictional character. It does seem like stunt casting to cast a black actor, although Idris Elba (or, for that matter, Chiwetel Ejifor) would be excellent.

Connery had a certain physicality for his day (recall he was a Mr. Universe contestant in the pre-PED era) that they didn't recapture until Daniel Craig - most of the others were more in the foppish, "gentlemanly" spies in the Roger Moore mold. Elba would be more like Connery and Craig's Bond, rough around the edges.
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 12/24/14 at 10:42 am to
I remember seeing Othello played by Lawrence Olivier. He wore a lot of black make up. But he really didn't look black.

Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 12/24/14 at 10:52 am to
I heard they were remaking Huck Finn and Jim was being played by a white guy.
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 12/24/14 at 10:53 am to
Hey, Huck Finn has been taken out of some libraries due to the N word.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 12/24/14 at 10:55 am to
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I remember seeing Othello played by Lawrence Olivier. He wore a lot of black make up. But he really didn't look black.


I think the jury is still out on whether Othello was North African (Arab) or actually black (sub-Saharan).
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/24/14 at 10:56 am to
Maybe he could have played the Barack the Magic Negro song while he cut to commercial break to make his stance on race a little bit clearer.
Posted by FT
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Posted on 12/24/14 at 10:57 am to
I'd forgotten about that song.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 12/24/14 at 10:57 am to
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Hey, Huck Finn has been taken out of some libraries due to the N word.



Which libraries?
Posted by FT
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Posted on 12/24/14 at 11:01 am to
The liberal ones, idiot.

Don't you read the news?

Gaw
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
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Posted on 12/24/14 at 11:06 am to
Are people really upset about this? I mean, really?
Posted by Lsupimp
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 12/24/14 at 11:09 am to
The Racist "Barack The Magic Negro" . LINK
Posted by Navtiger1
Washington
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 12/24/14 at 11:09 am to
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Are people really upset about this?


Some are furious.

Some are upset.

Some would be disappointed, but still watch "Me".

Some don't care.

Some thing its the greatest idea ever.
Posted by Tom288
Jacksonville
Member since Apr 2009
20986 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 11:17 am to
Other things Rush missed:

Superman played by an English actor
Batman played by an English actor
Bane played by an English actor
Sherlock Holmes played by an American actor
Wolverine played by an Australian actor
Red Skull played by an English actor
M played by a woman
All of the non-Scottish Bonds

And I'm sure I could go on and on and on.
Posted by broadhead
Member since Oct 2014
2104 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 11:21 am to
Look at the box office number for the new black Annie. It's made 19 million as of Dec 22nd. Sony might want to rethink a black bond.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 11:24 am to
John H. Watson, MD

Physical appearance:

In A Study in Scarlet, having just returned from Afghanistan, John Watson is described "as thin as a lath and as brown as a nut." In subsequent texts, he is variously described as strongly built, of a stature either average or slightly above average, with a thick, strong neck and a small moustache. Watson used to be an athlete: it is mentioned in "The Adventure of the Sussex Vampire" that he used to play Rugby Union for Blackheath (a famous old London club), but he fears his physical condition has declined since that point. In The Adventure of Charles Augustus Milverton {1899} Watson is described as "a middle-aged, strongly built man-square jaw, thick neck, moustache..." In His Last Bow (story) set in August 1914 Watson is described as "..a heavily built, elderly man with a gray moustache...".




Oh...

My...


...GOD!!!!11!!!11!!! WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!1!!11!!11
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 12/24/14 at 11:24 am to
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M played by a woman


I'm sure he lost it over this too. The horror!!
Posted by GoBigOrange86
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Member since Jun 2008
14486 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 11:25 am to
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Look at the box office number for the new black Annie. It's made 19 million as of Dec 22nd. Sony might want to rethink a black bond.


But do you honestly think that's because the characters were black? I think that probably has more to do with the lack of people who were just clamoring for another remake of Annie.

I mean, seriously, what's next? We gonna reboot Little Shop of Horrors?
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
31635 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 11:27 am to
Would play so much bigger than. Annie....
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