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re: Rittenhouse day 9-Motions and jury instructions

Posted on 11/12/21 at 11:13 am to
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
19489 posts
Posted on 11/12/21 at 11:13 am to
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Prosecution says KR had a duty to retreat..... yeah that's horseshite.. Wis. does not have a duty to retreat.


He also did retreat.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71635 posts
Posted on 11/12/21 at 11:14 am to
quote:

Prosecution says KR had a duty to retreat..... yeah that's horseshite.. Wis. does not have a duty to retreat.



This should instantly make the decision for the judge. If the state doesn't know their own laws, how can it correctly argue for the lessors.
Posted by GeauxGutsy
Member since Jul 2017
4760 posts
Posted on 11/12/21 at 11:14 am to
quote:

Any rational adult should wonder why CBS even mentioned Lebron’s opinion.


Same with ABC and NBC. Their target is the 60+ crowd that watch their local news
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
31059 posts
Posted on 11/12/21 at 11:15 am to
quote:

Prosecution says KR had a duty to retreat..... yeah that's horseshite.. Wis. does not have a duty to retreat.


The kid was running away and being chased. Thats like the definition of retreating.
Posted by Hydrilla Gorilla
North Shore
Member since May 2017
1442 posts
Posted on 11/12/21 at 11:16 am to
Hopefully no more than a few days.... the longer it takes for the jury to deliberate the more likely Kyle will get a hung jury and will be tried again
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
19489 posts
Posted on 11/12/21 at 11:16 am to
"Somewhat zoomed in" picture
Posted by jatilen
Member since May 2020
13608 posts
Posted on 11/12/21 at 11:17 am to
Fat boy continues with his ridiculous lies..."I watched the video [2nd drone video] on my big TV at home and it was clear."
This post was edited on 11/12/21 at 11:18 am
Posted by Marye
Member since Oct 2020
448 posts
Posted on 11/12/21 at 11:17 am to
I'm just watching the Judge and attorneys going back
and forth about "what ifs" and how jurors might think/interpret such and such and poor Kyle is totally without emotion and I'm wondering what he is really thinking. I keep hoping Kyle interjects Hey guys...
what's this crap with the reckless endangerment?
Do any of you really know what I was thinking in
the 3/4 of a second I fired off 4 rounds?
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
33617 posts
Posted on 11/12/21 at 11:18 am to
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I still have a bad feeling that this judge may actually allow the jury to consider lesser charges.

It wouldn’t matter to me if I were on the jury. It was clearly self defense as proven by the states own star witness. He didn’t shoot him until a gun was pointed at his head. I wouldn’t convict Kyle of jaywalking at this point.

I know this is an emotional case for the locals but don’t forget how many were terrorized by these mostly peaceful protests.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
28890 posts
Posted on 11/12/21 at 11:18 am to
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Fat boy continues with his ridiculous lies..."I watched the video [2nd drone video] on my big TV at home and it was clear."



Seriously WTF.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
18170 posts
Posted on 11/12/21 at 11:19 am to
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Binger even made a comment about it being political yesterday.

Seriously? What did he say? (if that's already been posted, I'll see it as a scroll)
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
9541 posts
Posted on 11/12/21 at 11:19 am to
The extent the State in this case is going to create charges and manipulate evidence should concern anybody that understands what the States job actually is.
Posted by fwtex
Member since Nov 2019
2025 posts
Posted on 11/12/21 at 11:21 am to
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The fact that the State can add charges after the trial is over is ridiculous.

If I were on the jury it would just piss me off more at the prosecution.


Yes, but the jury will likely not know the additional charges were added after all testimony. I can't believe this is allowed. It must be a state by state rule because in Texas they cannot change the charges.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
19489 posts
Posted on 11/12/21 at 11:22 am to
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Seriously? What did he say? (if that's already been posted, I'll see it as a scroll)


It was during the testimony of the professional commentator. He wanted to ask about his hiring a lawyer to provide video evidence to the cops and the judge made the jury leave to ask about it. During his explanation he said it was political and he wanted to prove the bias of the witness.
Posted by 9Fiddy
19th Hole
Member since Jan 2007
64232 posts
Posted on 11/12/21 at 11:23 am to
This is insane. So the state goes after him for murder, gets their arse handed to them, then can add lesser charges to bail themselves out? frick that.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
50374 posts
Posted on 11/12/21 at 11:23 am to
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The extent the State in this case is going to create charges and manipulate evidence should concern anybody that understands what the States job actually is.




The government is not on your side.

Their only goal is to win.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 11/12/21 at 11:23 am to
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I still have a bad feeling that this judge may actually allow the jury to consider lesser charges.


He has already allowed some and excluded some and tabled some for further consideration.
Posted by Sherman Klump
Wellman College
Member since Jul 2011
4467 posts
Posted on 11/12/21 at 11:25 am to
From what I can tell, the defense will still have a motion to dismiss some of these charges?
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
50374 posts
Posted on 11/12/21 at 11:25 am to
Bald Rolexman is the one that should be handling this. Not a fan of Richards.
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
6588 posts
Posted on 11/12/21 at 11:25 am to
"Wait you say that is provocation when you just said the chasing was provocation?"

Judge is calling him out on his BS.
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