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re: Political cartoon about eliminating funding for the National Endowment for the Arts

Posted on 3/20/17 at 7:48 am to
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 7:48 am to
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Yes indeed...end the tax payer subsidization of the arts but continue our subsidization of the arts in foreign nations....

Ah, the standard leftist approach.

NOTHING can be cut because this other thing isn't being cut.

It renders actually having to defend funding moot which is good for lefties because they want to fund so much nonsense.

On it's own, there's no real logical reason to fund the NEA. Period.
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 7:57 am to
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Ah, the standard leftist approach.

NOTHING can be cut because this other thing isn't being cut.

It renders actually having to defend funding moot which is good for lefties because they want to fund so much nonsense.

On it's own, there's no real logical reason to fund the NEA. Period.



SO you are OK with sending your money to South Korea to fund the arts in South Korea but not OK with doing so in the US? Is that the idea? Why?

It isn't just the arts...why is GM, Ford, Chrysler and American Workers asked to reach into their pockets and send money to Korea so Hyundai can compete "on a level playing field"? It isn't about spending it is about where the spending is being done. It would seem that many on both sides of the aisle are of the opinion that it is far more important for the security of the United States for the people of South Korea to have jobs that afford them a basic standard of living in South Korea than it is for Americans to have the same thing in America. You seem to agree with this....
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 7:59 am to
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SO you are OK with sending your money to South Korea to fund the arts in South Korea but not OK with doing so in the US? Is that the idea? Why?
What the frick are you talking about?

My post was clear. Discuss why NEA should be funded.

There's tons of shite that I don't like that's funded by government.

If I took the position that NOTHING can be cut unless EVERYTHING I don't like is cut, then NOTHING could ever be cut.

Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43396 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 8:03 am to
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Yes indeed...end the tax payer subsidization of the arts but continue our subsidization of the arts in foreign nations....that's the ticket. Not a one of you will agree to end that subsidization though, will you? Because ending that subsidy would mean a serious cut in military spending and we can't have that....



I think we need to cut both.
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 8:06 am to
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What the frick are you talking about?

My post was clear. Discuss why NEA should be funded.

There's tons of shite that I don't like that's funded by government.

If I took the position that NOTHING can be cut unless EVERYTHING I don't like is cut, then NOTHING could ever be cut.




We should fund the NEA at home if we are going to do so in South Korea...that is my point my friend. We should also subsidize GM, Ford and Chrysler so they and their employees in the United States are operating on a level playing field....thats what the frick I am talking about....y'all rant and rave about free markets as if the United States military allows for any such thing to exist on the globe...because Americans pay for the security of the world....and then are expected to accept the concept of a "free market"....


Every tenet of the left, the right and the moderate falls apart when you realize that we are paying for things like national health care all over the world while claiming doing so at home would be a slippery slope to soviet style communism....
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
13507 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 8:07 am to
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SO you are OK with sending your money to South Korea to fund the arts in South Korea but not OK with doing so in the US? Is that the idea? Why?

SO let me check your logic. We should continue to waste the taxes of hard working Americans on crappy "art" in the U.S. because we waste tax dollars on crappy art in South Korea? All this instead of eliminating all possible government waste?

You sir have earned your libtard gold star for the day!
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 8:11 am to
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We should fund the NEA at home if we are going to do so in South Korea...that is my point my friend
Well, your point is nonsense.

You don't support the need for funding A by citing the existence of funding B.

Sorry. That's just dumb. Using that approach, NOTHING could EVER be cut.

Of course, that's why liberals use the approach.

It's also how you justify any and all spending.

"Well, if we're going to fund X, then we must fund Y".

Sorry. Your approach is that of a 5 year old. Try again.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 8:12 am to
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SO let me check your logic. We should continue to waste the taxes of hard working Americans on crappy "art" in the U.S. because we waste tax dollars on crappy art in South Korea? All this instead of eliminating all possible government waste?


Welcome to liberal logic where, if you are wasting money on X, it justifies wasting money on Y until you agree to cut both.

It's so stupid, it's painful.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 8:14 am to
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Every tenet of the left, the right and the moderate falls apart when you realize that we are paying for things like national health care all over the world while claiming doing so at home would be a slippery slope to soviet style communism....

It's readily obvious that you recognize there are no actual arguments for spending money to fund the NEA.

Hence, your desperate need to bring in unrelated issues.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48331 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 8:16 am to
Where in the Constitution does it authorize Congress to allocate spending on the arts?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 8:17 am to
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in the Constitution does it authorize Congress to allocate spending on the arts?

Don't think you intended this response for me.

Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43396 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 8:17 am to
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Where in the Constitution does it authorize Congress to allocate spending on the arts?


IBF some idiot quotes Article 1, Section 8.
Posted by CajunSoldier225
Member since Aug 2011
8990 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 8:17 am to
There are a lot of down votes throughout this thread. I wonder if they'll chime in so we can know why they believe the NEA deserves our tax $?

Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48331 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 8:18 am to
It's an open question. I know you oppose this spending.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22581 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 8:21 am to
Fund NEA but mandate that they serve the sole purpose of creating a mural, approved by Trump, for the wall.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25255 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 8:37 am to
Liberals belief that you can keep wasting money as long as it isn't as much money as something else the country does is laughably stupid. If we aren't giving the NEA "a lot" of money, then they won't miss it when we cut it.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48541 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 9:27 am to
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I can see no justification for federal tax dollars going towards the National Endowment for the Arts. None.


You find no great value in the "Piss Christ" work of Art?

Some Democrat bitch should make a "Piss Allah" work of Art because then we would have a follow-on Performance Art film on YouTube called "Piss Allah Guy Having His Head Sawed Off While He Dies Screaming".

This post was edited on 3/20/17 at 9:29 am
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48541 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 9:30 am to
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Where in the Constitution does it authorize Congress to allocate spending on the arts?


Believe me when I say that Democrat Justices will make it up as they go along to make it happen. They will simply create the authorization by Judicial Diktat.

You see, Radical Leftists LOVE Leftist Dictatorship. Whether a Radical Left SCOTUS imposes the dictatorship OR a POTUS with plenary legislative powers imposes the dictatorship doesn't matter to them.

This post was edited on 3/20/17 at 9:32 am
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 7:35 am to
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t's readily obvious that you recognize there are no actual arguments for spending money to fund the NEA.

Hence, your desperate need to bring in unrelated issues.




You people aren't capable of understanding why the public has always funded the arts in civilized societies...otherwise you wouldn't support not funding the arts.

Apparently some of you do not understand mathematics either. You are all about cutting funding for the arts in the US but don't give a damn about your paying for the arts in Korea. Or Germany, or Japan, or anywhere else on the globe....you people are like a well trained guard dog...you are more than willing to eat kibble while your masters eat steak and pat you on the head as long as you are ready to pay for their steak and fight their wars for them.....


Here is an idea...you have me convinced you are a true conservative. Why not insist that South Korea foot the bill, in its entirety, to keep North Korea at bay? That would ne a helluva lot more money than what we are spending on the arts....but watch the right come in and poo-poo that idea....meanwhile US Workers and US Comapnies are forced to compete with workers and companies which exist only because of US Taxpayers and y'all whine and snivel about a free market...


There is a common meme that socialism and communism fails every time...yet it has worked like a champ in South Korea...the secret, apparently, to successful socialism, is to have another base of tax payers foot the bill....and then get them to pretend as if they believe in free markets...it is laughable...
This post was edited on 3/21/17 at 7:38 am
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140831 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 7:38 am to
Try to be honest for once.

Should a person living month to month, $24k in unsecured debt and with a relatively flat income curve donate money to their local museum?
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