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re: Once again the powers try to change the rules in midsteam. More SG politics,
Posted on 4/24/14 at 2:37 pm to Mickey Goldmill
Posted on 4/24/14 at 2:37 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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SG supporters fail to remember
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Posted on 4/24/14 at 2:37 pm to doubleb
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Btw, where were you in the CATS issue? Were you for letting the entire parish vote on that one too?
That's not relevant. There are special taxing districts all over the state which only apply to the people living there.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 2:38 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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I'm not saying that's not true. Only saying they will get some support outside of the SG area should this bill pass. To clarify other peoples questions, nothing has been signed into law. Still a long way to go.
It's obvious the deck would be stacked against SG.
There was a long way to go when these bills were floated. Since then they've steamrolled through the legislature.
The governor may be SG's only salvation.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 2:39 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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That's not relevant. There are special taxing districts all over the state which only apply to the people living there.
No doubt, and their are cities and towns that are incorporated that have elections that only they vote.
It's the same principle.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 2:39 pm to doubleb
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There was a long way to go when these bills were floated. Since then they've steamrolled through the legislature.
The governor may be SG's only salvation.
It won't pass in its current form....and changing a state law like this for only one group of citizens in one parish is probably going to draw a successful legal challenge anyway.
This post was edited on 4/24/14 at 2:47 pm
Posted on 4/24/14 at 2:40 pm to member12
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It won't pass in its current form.
They amend these bills to only apply to EBR parish, and then they pass.
Watch
Posted on 4/24/14 at 2:40 pm to doubleb
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It's the same principle.
Principles have been thrown out the window. This is about money.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 2:41 pm to doubleb
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It's the same principle.
I'll give you that it's similar but the situations are very different. Nobody outside the cats tax district could claim any negative effects from that tax passing. The same can't be said for those in the city limits with incorporation.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 2:41 pm to member12
So who is pulling the strings at the state level?
Posted on 4/24/14 at 2:41 pm to theunknownknight
Does anyone know if Jindal has spoken about this?
Posted on 4/24/14 at 2:44 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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There is no such thing as a Baton Rouge city government
That's simply not true. We may have a combined City/Parish Government entity that oversees various agencies but these agencies are separated and belong to different political jurisdictions.
BR Police are part of BR City
BR Fire are part of BR City
BR Constable is part of BR City
BR City Court is part of BR City
There is absolutely a split in government agencies between what is "City" and what is "Parish."
I'm not completely for the incorporation because it is going to cost a lot more than what is being advertised. That said, the SG supporters are on the right side of the financial issue here.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 2:45 pm to Mickey Goldmill
quote:Why not? Is Baton Rouge now capable of providing essential services like fire and police protection that it wasn't capable of providing previously? What has changed to make those areas necessary to Baton Rouge now that didn't exist for the past 5 years? It is only the thought of losing the tax revenue that makes them attractive. Otherwise those areas should have been annexed previously, and the essential services provided, if they were so valuable a part of the Baton Rouge community.
They never had a reason to annex these areas before.
Why hasn't Baton Rouge considered annexing any residential areas? Baton Rouge doesn't want more people, it only wants more money. This isn't about what is good for the Parish. It is about what is good for Baton Rouge, and it is intended to punish people living in unincorporated parts of the Parish.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 2:45 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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I'll give you that it's similar but the situations are very different. Nobody outside the cats tax district could claim any negative effects from that tax passing. The same can't be said for those in the city limits with incorporation.
What if a guy who lived in CCL owned a lot of property in BR, he couldn't vote yet his taxes would go up.
Sure people were affected.
It's a great example of the city leaders picking and choosing their methods to accomplish their goals.
CATS created a special taxing district. What's next, a special taxing district for a new waterfront development??? A new taxing district for a pet project of the next mayor???
The CATS vote set a bad precedent and I predict it will be turned around to the detriment of the parish one day.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 2:47 pm to doubleb
Is this the longest an SG thread has gone without a Russian comment?
Posted on 4/24/14 at 2:48 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Nobody outside the cats tax district could claim any negative effects from that tax passing.
Really?
Busing unskilled laborers doesn't affect the job prospects of unskilled laborers in the immediate vicinity?
Posted on 4/24/14 at 2:49 pm to Antonio Moss
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That's simply not true. We may have a combined City/Parish Government entity that oversees various agencies but these agencies are separated and belong to different political jurisdictions.
Different services have different districts. They are all operated and run by the same Mayor and Metro Council. The city limits and the unincorporated areas all share one single government body.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 2:52 pm to doubleb
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House Municipal Parochial and Cultural Affairs Committee advanced the bill only after its sponsor state Rep. Ted James, D-Baton Rouge, promised to revamp it to apply only to the situation in East Baton Rouge Parish.
I'm just going to leave this alone. This is the glaring problem with the proposal.
St. George supporters should be pleased. They'll probably have a great weekend for signatures because of this act of desparation.
This post was edited on 4/24/14 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 4/24/14 at 2:52 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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They are all operated and run by the same Mayor and Metro Council. The city limits and the unincorporated areas all share one single government body.
And they have different budgets from various sources. That's what this is about. Money is annually funneled away from the unincorporated area to subsidize the budgets of the agencies within the city.
The money doesn't move the other way.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 2:54 pm to Poodlebrain
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Why not? Is Baton Rouge now capable of providing essential services like fire and police protection that it wasn't capable of providing previously? What has changed to make those areas necessary to Baton Rouge now that didn't exist for the past 5 years? It is only the thought of losing the tax revenue that makes them attractive. Otherwise those areas should have been annexed previously, and the essential services provided, if they were so valuable a part of the Baton Rouge community. Why hasn't Baton Rouge considered annexing any residential areas? Baton Rouge doesn't want more people, it only wants more money. This isn't about what is good for the Parish. It is about what is good for Baton Rouge, and it is intended to punish people living in unincorporated parts of the Parish.
I don't think you know how annexation works. The metro council has to be approached by the citizens or businesses that want to be annexed. The Mall would have never even considered annexation before because it's likely that their property taxes will go up.
They are entertaining it now because they fear being a part of SG.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 2:55 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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I don't think you know how annexation works.
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