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re: Often unqualified affirmative action students like Kamala Harris fail the bar exam

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Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
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Posted on 9/11/17 at 12:59 pm to
some of those are not really necessary as full classes

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Civil Procedure II

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Fed Procedure

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Criminal Procedure

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Business Entities II

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Family II


and if you streamline many of the rest, you can get bar-ready without being "law school" ready

i will say it's legitimately stupid that NI is on the bar
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/11/17 at 1:00 pm to
anyone care to guess Sheila Jackson Lee's education? she is also the meanest boss in DC. LINK
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101360 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 1:02 pm to
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The LSAT/IQ conversion puts an IQ of 115 at an LSAT score of 142.


Where are you getting this?
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 9/11/17 at 1:04 pm to
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i will say it's legitimately stupid that NI is on the bar



That section was the one I worried the most about - not because it necessarily difficult but because it was so boring that I struggled focusing when studying it.

Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101360 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 1:11 pm to
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i will say it's legitimately stupid that NI is on the bar


That section was the one I worried the most about - not because it necessarily difficult but because it was so boring that I struggled focusing when studying it.


There MAY BE about 10 attorneys in the entire state legitimately doing any work in that area.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/11/17 at 1:14 pm to
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There MAY BE about 10 attorneys in the entire state legitimately doing any work in that area

yeah i know a few who use it occasionally b/c they represent banks but it's a very small population
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 9/11/17 at 1:15 pm to
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Asians students aren't being left out because of the 10-12 native/Hispanic/black kids they let in. They are being screwed over by "less deserving" white applicants/ legacy students. Any honest assessment of the stats or a deeper dive will show that. So when the narrative changes, what Is your thought ?


There is a cartoon that perfectly summarizes this

Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 1:18 pm to
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I thought the MBE was easy.


Dude two correct answers upsets my apple cart, give me an essay so I can spew the bullshite
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 9/11/17 at 1:18 pm to
That's a funny cartoon, but the stats still do not reflect that as being a real situation.

If unqualified whites are getting in, then why do the stats not reflect that?
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 9/11/17 at 1:22 pm to
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There is a cartoon that perfectly summarizes this

Nah.

It does point to the consequence of affirmative action policies, though.
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 9/11/17 at 1:28 pm to

I am going to have to look up more information on the disparity between minority scores and standard scores in order to give an appropriate response.

However, lets look at the event in which the donor's son or daughter does indeed make the necessary scores. Safety's point still stands, albeit for a different reason.

The fact of the matter is that many whites are accepting of nepotism over racial preference, even if the nepotism in question is more of a barrier.

Even more "affirmative action friendly"' institutions will over go so far. There is only a handful of blacks and Hispanics that make it in the best schools as opposed to those whites who have better family connections over other whites.

Nepotism within the system is overall a much more likely reason a smart white or asian person got the short end of the stick. Think of it this way, alot of elite white people are mildly racist - why would they put credibility on the line for a black person?
Posted by Jimmy2shoes
The South
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Posted on 9/11/17 at 2:30 pm to
What is a Kamala?
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 2:38 pm to
That comment in the OP makes the entire thread a troll in my opinion... Also gives some idea of the mentality of that poster.
Posted by real
Dixieland
Member since Oct 2007
14027 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 2:43 pm to
Yeah and her and her Mommy both probably got EBT cards.
Posted by real
Dixieland
Member since Oct 2007
14027 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 2:53 pm to
If each state is giving everyone the same test , what is problem? Are they saying that Blacks can't learn the law and pass the test the same as other ethnics groups? And I'm tired of hearing " racist' I mean unless we have something from the Martian race we cant have "racism'. We have different ethnic groups, not races!
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
17547 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 3:52 pm to
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That's a funny cartoon, but the stats still do not reflect that as being a real situation. If unqualified whites are getting in, then why do the stats not reflect that?


Yes they do, there are articles on it. I encourage you to research them.

Are they unqualified? No but are they less qualified than some of the other more qualified applicants that are denied. That, based on yalls argument, is still wrong and it shouldn't happen.

If it's entirely merit base, then the white % at this higher level Ivy leagues would go down. Are y'all okay with that or will you find another way to refute it ?

Your dad having gone to the school is not merit -- it's luck.

Why should that factor in and why does no one care about that affirmative action? Is it because it's a benefit you would like to have?
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
17547 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 3:55 pm to
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I am going to have to look up more information on the disparity between minority scores and standard scores in order to give an appropriate response.

However, lets look at the event in which the donor's son or daughter does indeed make the necessary scores. Safety's point still stands, albeit for a different reason.

The fact of the matter is that many whites are accepting of nepotism over racial preference, even if the nepotism in question is more of a barrier.

Even more "affirmative action friendly"' institutions will over go so far. There is only a handful of blacks and Hispanics that make it in the best schools as opposed to those whites who have better family connections over other whites.

Nepotism within the system is overall a much more likely reason a smart white or asian person got the short end of the stick. Think of it this way, alot of elite white people are mildly racist - why would they put credibility on the line for a black person?


I disagree with your last statement but this post is everything.

They prefer nepotism over racial preference because it benefits THEM. That's it. I wish they would just admit it.

40% of harvards incoming freshman class has a legacy connection.

40%. Yet someone will bitch about the 15% POC population as if they are all merit less.

Why shouldn't we check the merits of the legacy kids and see if they aren't lesser qualified.
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
17547 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 3:56 pm to
Black and Indian
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 3:59 pm to
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They prefer nepotism over racial preference because it benefits THEM. That's it


There you go again. Viewing everyone on a racial team.

I will never benefit from ivy league nepotism

Neither will my children
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 9/11/17 at 4:00 pm to
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The bar exam is a barrier to entry, a form of occupational licensure that restricts access to a particular vocation and reduces market competition.


Wow, this is just wow!


These are the same people who write articles that dindunuffins didn't get top notch lawyers to defend them. Now they cry for watering credentials down.
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