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re: Often unqualified affirmative action students like Kamala Harris fail the bar exam
Posted on 9/11/17 at 12:59 pm to Antonio Moss
Posted on 9/11/17 at 12:59 pm to Antonio Moss
some of those are not really necessary as full classes
and if you streamline many of the rest, you can get bar-ready without being "law school" ready
i will say it's legitimately stupid that NI is on the bar
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Civil Procedure II
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Fed Procedure
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Criminal Procedure
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Business Entities II
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Family II
and if you streamline many of the rest, you can get bar-ready without being "law school" ready
i will say it's legitimately stupid that NI is on the bar
Posted on 9/11/17 at 1:02 pm to Antonio Moss
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The LSAT/IQ conversion puts an IQ of 115 at an LSAT score of 142.
Where are you getting this?
Posted on 9/11/17 at 1:04 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i will say it's legitimately stupid that NI is on the bar
That section was the one I worried the most about - not because it necessarily difficult but because it was so boring that I struggled focusing when studying it.
Posted on 9/11/17 at 1:11 pm to Antonio Moss
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i will say it's legitimately stupid that NI is on the bar
That section was the one I worried the most about - not because it necessarily difficult but because it was so boring that I struggled focusing when studying it.
There MAY BE about 10 attorneys in the entire state legitimately doing any work in that area.
Posted on 9/11/17 at 1:14 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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There MAY BE about 10 attorneys in the entire state legitimately doing any work in that area
yeah i know a few who use it occasionally b/c they represent banks but it's a very small population
Posted on 9/11/17 at 1:15 pm to StrongSafety
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Asians students aren't being left out because of the 10-12 native/Hispanic/black kids they let in. They are being screwed over by "less deserving" white applicants/ legacy students. Any honest assessment of the stats or a deeper dive will show that. So when the narrative changes, what Is your thought ?
There is a cartoon that perfectly summarizes this
Posted on 9/11/17 at 1:18 pm to SabiDojo
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I thought the MBE was easy.
Dude two correct answers upsets my apple cart, give me an essay so I can spew the bullshite
Posted on 9/11/17 at 1:18 pm to volod
That's a funny cartoon, but the stats still do not reflect that as being a real situation.
If unqualified whites are getting in, then why do the stats not reflect that?
If unqualified whites are getting in, then why do the stats not reflect that?
Posted on 9/11/17 at 1:22 pm to volod
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There is a cartoon that perfectly summarizes this
Nah.
It does point to the consequence of affirmative action policies, though.
Posted on 9/11/17 at 1:28 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
I am going to have to look up more information on the disparity between minority scores and standard scores in order to give an appropriate response.
However, lets look at the event in which the donor's son or daughter does indeed make the necessary scores. Safety's point still stands, albeit for a different reason.
The fact of the matter is that many whites are accepting of nepotism over racial preference, even if the nepotism in question is more of a barrier.
Even more "affirmative action friendly"' institutions will over go so far. There is only a handful of blacks and Hispanics that make it in the best schools as opposed to those whites who have better family connections over other whites.
Nepotism within the system is overall a much more likely reason a smart white or asian person got the short end of the stick. Think of it this way, alot of elite white people are mildly racist - why would they put credibility on the line for a black person?
Posted on 9/11/17 at 2:38 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
That comment in the OP makes the entire thread a troll in my opinion... Also gives some idea of the mentality of that poster.
Posted on 9/11/17 at 2:43 pm to austintigerdad
Yeah and her and her Mommy both probably got EBT cards.
Posted on 9/11/17 at 2:53 pm to TigerChief10
If each state is giving everyone the same test , what is problem? Are they saying that Blacks can't learn the law and pass the test the same as other ethnics groups? And I'm tired of hearing " racist' I mean unless we have something from the Martian race we cant have "racism'. We have different ethnic groups, not races!
Posted on 9/11/17 at 3:52 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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That's a funny cartoon, but the stats still do not reflect that as being a real situation. If unqualified whites are getting in, then why do the stats not reflect that?
Yes they do, there are articles on it. I encourage you to research them.
Are they unqualified? No but are they less qualified than some of the other more qualified applicants that are denied. That, based on yalls argument, is still wrong and it shouldn't happen.
If it's entirely merit base, then the white % at this higher level Ivy leagues would go down. Are y'all okay with that or will you find another way to refute it ?
Your dad having gone to the school is not merit -- it's luck.
Why should that factor in and why does no one care about that affirmative action? Is it because it's a benefit you would like to have?
Posted on 9/11/17 at 3:55 pm to volod
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I am going to have to look up more information on the disparity between minority scores and standard scores in order to give an appropriate response.
However, lets look at the event in which the donor's son or daughter does indeed make the necessary scores. Safety's point still stands, albeit for a different reason.
The fact of the matter is that many whites are accepting of nepotism over racial preference, even if the nepotism in question is more of a barrier.
Even more "affirmative action friendly"' institutions will over go so far. There is only a handful of blacks and Hispanics that make it in the best schools as opposed to those whites who have better family connections over other whites.
Nepotism within the system is overall a much more likely reason a smart white or asian person got the short end of the stick. Think of it this way, alot of elite white people are mildly racist - why would they put credibility on the line for a black person?
I disagree with your last statement but this post is everything.
They prefer nepotism over racial preference because it benefits THEM. That's it. I wish they would just admit it.
40% of harvards incoming freshman class has a legacy connection.
40%. Yet someone will bitch about the 15% POC population as if they are all merit less.
Why shouldn't we check the merits of the legacy kids and see if they aren't lesser qualified.
Posted on 9/11/17 at 3:59 pm to StrongSafety
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They prefer nepotism over racial preference because it benefits THEM. That's it
There you go again. Viewing everyone on a racial team.
I will never benefit from ivy league nepotism
Neither will my children
Posted on 9/11/17 at 4:00 pm to Strannix
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The bar exam is a barrier to entry, a form of occupational licensure that restricts access to a particular vocation and reduces market competition.
Wow, this is just wow!
These are the same people who write articles that dindunuffins didn't get top notch lawyers to defend them. Now they cry for watering credentials down.
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