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Often unqualified affirmative action students like Kamala Harris fail the bar exam
Posted on 9/11/17 at 6:00 am
Posted on 9/11/17 at 6:00 am
So much so that the bar is exam is now considered racist.
Barrier to entry for minorities that want to practice law
Old article but a goodie
LINK
And I agree I think medical school is a barrier to me practicing medicine and making that 300k!
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The bar exam was designed and continues to operate as a mechanism for excluding the lower classes from participation in the legal services market. Elizabeth Olson of The New York Times reports that the bar exam as a professional standard “is facing a new round of scrutiny—not just from the test takers but from law school deans and some state legal establishments.” This is a welcome development. The dean of the University of San Diego School of Law, Stephen C. Ferruolo, complained to the Times that the bar exam “is an unpredictable and unacceptable impediment for accessibility to the legal profession.” He is right: The bar exam is a barrier to entry, a form of occupational licensure that restricts access to a particular vocation and reduces market competition.
Barrier to entry for minorities that want to practice law
Old article but a goodie
LINK
And I agree I think medical school is a barrier to me practicing medicine and making that 300k!
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Posted on 9/11/17 at 6:02 am to Strannix
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And I agree I think medical school is a barrier to me practicing medicine and making that 300k!
It's a higher barrier if you are Asian or White.
The matriculation stats have been posted and discussed at length on the PT. Not everyone plays by the same rules.
LINK
This post was edited on 9/11/17 at 6:32 am
Posted on 9/11/17 at 6:35 am to Strannix
The unfair part is admitting unprepared applicants.
Posted on 9/11/17 at 6:45 am to Strannix
I have no doubt that if they'd give me a couple of months to prepare, I could pass the bar. Hell, maybe less than that - didn't Frank Abginale study for only a week and still pass it? 
Posted on 9/11/17 at 6:51 am to dewster
Whats the matter with current testing?
In ca, you do not need a law degree.
You 21? Not a felon?
You take the bar.
Pass. Practice.
No pass, no practice.
Posted on 9/11/17 at 6:51 am to SlapahoeTribe
It took my cousin Vinny six times to pass, and he didn't complain. 
Posted on 9/11/17 at 6:55 am to Strannix
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He is right: The bar exam is a barrier to entry, a form of occupational licensure that restricts access to a particular vocation and reduces market competition
This is true.
Posted on 9/11/17 at 6:57 am to Strannix
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...unqualified affirmative action students like Kamala Harris
Only around 45 percent of test takers pass California's notoriously tough bar exam the first time they take it.
GTFO you racist hillbilly.
ETA: you're likely a better candidate for affirmative action than Kamala Harris.
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Her mother was a prominent breast cancer researcher... and her father a Stanford University economics professor.
This post was edited on 9/11/17 at 7:54 am
Posted on 9/11/17 at 7:07 am to Strannix
More govt when it serves your aims huh?
Shouldn't the market just figure it out?
Shouldn't the market just figure it out?
Posted on 9/11/17 at 7:08 am to CelticDog
quote:
Whats the matter with current testing?
In ca, you do not need a law degree.
You 21? Not a felon?
You take the bar.
Pass. Practice.
No pass, no practice.
Why do you hate black people?
Posted on 9/11/17 at 7:11 am to SlapahoeTribe
quote:
I have no doubt that if they'd give me a couple of months to prepare, I could pass the bar.
hahahaha, go for it.
Posted on 9/11/17 at 7:12 am to Strannix
The soft tyranny of low expectations.
Posted on 9/11/17 at 7:12 am to austintigerdad
If anything, the success of those that do fail the bar and end up being more successful than the first time passers could suggest that it actually doesn't hinder someone's ability be a good lawyer.
Again, people like stannix just bring it up to suggest age old innuendos
Again, people like stannix just bring it up to suggest age old innuendos
Posted on 9/11/17 at 7:15 am to StrongSafety
LA Bar Exam was tough as balls a few years ago
Posted on 9/11/17 at 7:18 am to StrongSafety
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Shouldn't the market just figure it out?
When? When the market is sitting on death row,for a crime it didn't commit?
There has to be a certain standard for certain professions like law,medicine,and strippers.
I guess the peg leg strippers showed up early to downvote me.
This post was edited on 9/11/17 at 7:37 am
Posted on 9/11/17 at 7:19 am to StrongSafety
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the success of those that do fail the bar and end up being more successful than the first time passers
That article says nothing of the sort. People often improve performance on tests once they've seen the test. This is true of sat, act, gmat, etc...
You've gone beyond race warrior into full blown progressive. You are literally arguing that blacks need lower standards than whites.
Posted on 9/11/17 at 7:20 am to StrongSafety
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More govt when it serves your aims huh?
So which do you have a bigger problem with?
- Affirmative action drawing less competitive applicants into medical and law schools
- Affirmative affirmative action bringing less prepared students into the bar or shelf exams.
Posted on 9/11/17 at 7:21 am to Vacherie Saint
Im not trying to say that the test aren't important; aptitude is very important and it needs to be tested.
How it's weigh though is more important. We've all seen the cases of people who are book smart but not intelligent. People that knew everything but couldn't apply it for shite.
How it's weigh though is more important. We've all seen the cases of people who are book smart but not intelligent. People that knew everything but couldn't apply it for shite.
Posted on 9/11/17 at 7:22 am to Strannix
this makes me LoL
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