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re: Officer pleads guilty after leaving handcuffed suspect to drown

Posted on 6/29/17 at 11:20 am to
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
18058 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 11:20 am to
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I doubt anyone is ok with that.

Looking at the charges, the prosecutor is pretty ok with what happened. Sad.
Posted by Mizzou Mule
St. Charles County, Missou-rah
Member since Sep 2014
3076 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 11:48 am to
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I read the longer article where the trooper only had two hours of training to work on the water and admitted that the training was inadequate.


This move of putting the Highway Patrol in charge of water patrols was the idea of ex-gov and Dimm Jay Nixon. He is the same governor that ordered the National Guard into Ferguson and then ordered them to stand-back and watch it burn. He also played a large part in Mizzou's "crazy world" by appointing stupid Dimms to the Board of Curators.

We have a former Navy Seal and Repub as governor now. Order restored.
Posted by Trauma14
Member since Aug 2010
5843 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 11:49 am to
Pretty damn sure the officer is required to provide a life jacket for the guy as well. Was the kid wearing one?
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 11:52 am to
He got protected and served the shite out of him.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35470 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 11:54 am to
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After Piercy cuffed Ellingson, he tried pulling a life vest over Ellingson’s cuffed arms, instead of choosing another available life vest that allowed a person to wear handcuffs.

“He tried to pull [it] over his shoulders… and was having a very hard time doing so,” Ellingson’s friend Myles Goertz told investigators, according to the Kansas City Star. “It clearly was not the proper way to wear a life jacket. It was not how the life jacket was designed to be worn.”

Forgetting to fasten a buckle between Ellingson’s legs, Piercy “shoved a life jacket over his head and took off like a bat out of hell,” Craig said.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35470 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 11:57 am to
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When a bachelorette party passed on a nearby boat, the passengers threw Ellingson a life ring “but they didn’t know my son was handcuffed,” Craig said. “Piercy didn’t say he was handcuffed.”

The women told investigators that they screamed at Piercy to extend a pole to Ellingson, which he did “but he knew he was handcuffed,” Craig said.


That's just evil. The officer never went into the water to get him.

Extending a pole out for the guy to grab when he knew he was handcuffed.
This post was edited on 6/29/17 at 11:58 am
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 11:58 am to
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still more punishment than Ted Kennedy got


Oh...well in that case, no big deal.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 12:00 pm to
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Officer pleads guilty after leaving handcuffed suspect to drown by IoshTo a misdemeanor boating violation

I don't even have a comment strong enough for this.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 12:01 pm to
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I can't believe the policy is to handcuff you in a boat on the water without being violent first.


The policy is ALWAYS to handcuff a detained individual, whether they had gotten violent or not. For their protection, AND yours.


I have lots of questions here, too many to render an opinion on whether the officer committed a crime.

Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72696 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 12:01 pm to
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the excuse for making this a crime was:

"to save lives"

and what was the result?

dude died anyway


This is an entirely separate point.

The "lives" we're typically concerned more about are the ones that aren't operating vehicles while intoxicated.
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
23631 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 12:03 pm to
Apparently, the state agency that governed law enforcement on water merged with the state police, so they put road state troopers on the lake with little or no training. This guy had two hours of training.

The trooper used the wrong life jacket (they had a special one for use with cuffs).
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 12:04 pm to
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I have lots of questions here, too many to render an opinion on whether the officer committed a crime.



Thats because you're a fricking tard

Plus, I'm pretty sure the policy is to detain someone SAFELY.
This post was edited on 6/29/17 at 12:07 pm
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 12:04 pm to
I don't think that argument is a road you want to go down.
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
77375 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 12:04 pm to
this cop needs to be taken into the middle of the Atchafalaya and left there handcuffed...
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72696 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 12:05 pm to
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I don't think that argument is a road you want to go down.


I think you should know by now that's never going to be true.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 12:06 pm to
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Thats because you're a fricking tard


If wanting complete information before rendering an opinion makes one a "tard" I guess I'll own that.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 12:06 pm to
I mean I genuinely think you'll come out on the losing end of where the argument inevitably leads, regardless of how you interpret the exchange
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72696 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 12:08 pm to
Down AF.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 12:13 pm to
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If wanting complete information before rendering an opinion makes one a "tard" I guess I'll own that


Because you're incapable of basic logic.

He handcuffed him, didn't give him an appropriate life vest, and didn't buckle him in. The the kid drowned because the cop was going 46mph and couldn't control his boat.

If this was a car and the cop detained a man, didn't buckle him in, and then lost control and wrecked into a tree at 80mph killing the perp.. there would be no question whatsoever.

This post was edited on 6/29/17 at 12:15 pm
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
49021 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 12:16 pm to
Until motivated citizens carry out extrajudicial courts and executions nothing will happen. In a just world the officer would be executed,
This post was edited on 6/29/17 at 3:14 pm
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