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re: Officer pleads guilty after leaving handcuffed suspect to drown

Posted on 6/29/17 at 12:48 pm to
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
11001 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 12:48 pm to
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Let it be known that Snipe supports capital punishment for drinking and driving- without even getting a day in court.

What are your thoughts on Sharia?


a bit of the drama queen aren't you?

I didn't say that. I did however say that I'm with the only person dying being the drunk driver. I'd say it was more of negligence than capital punishment. 46 MPH with a restrained passenger is ridicules, but you make it sound like the officer hand cuffed him and just threw him over board and drive off. Should the officer face punishment? of fricking course, but you're really trying too hard to make a point that isn't there.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35242 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 12:49 pm to
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Let it be known that Snipe supports capital punishment for drinking and driving- without even getting a day in court.

What are your thoughts on Sharia?
Snipe has had a number of "tough guy" posts the last two days (e.g., how he'd fix the overcrowded prison population). I'm sure he wouldn't be one to get all outraged at tough guy Sharia law then.
Posted by MastrShake
SoCal
Member since Nov 2008
7281 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 12:49 pm to
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My question would be more geared toward policy. Why would they not have two officers there? This officer, obviously could have just put the boy in cuffs and waited for another officer or two to show up.
for budget reasons i can understand why they cant always have two officers together, but to have someone whom you think is drunk, someone that you arent watching, handcuffed in the back of a boat as you speed off at 47mph on a lake, is the peak of negligence.

there HAS to be someone else in the boat watching the kid in a situation like that.

the definition of "manslaughter"...

"the crime of killing a human being without malice aforethought, or otherwise in circumstances not amounting to murder."

if his actions dont fit that, then its not a real thing, its not a real crime, its meaningless.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58925 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 12:50 pm to
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Gonna reiterate my view that there should be a special prosecutor at the state level for criminal cases involving cops so it doesn't go to the local DA who relies on them to make a living.


Seems like a reasonable step, and a good idea.

This post was edited on 6/29/17 at 12:51 pm
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 12:51 pm to
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Jesus, all he had to do was blow the guy away and claim he was in fear for his life, dumbass.



Woulda saved him $500
Posted by MastrShake
SoCal
Member since Nov 2008
7281 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 12:55 pm to
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Gonna reiterate my view that there should be a special prosecutor at the state level for criminal cases involving cops so it doesn't go to the local DA who relies on them to make a living.
i cant even imagine what the argument would be AGAINST that. its a good idea for several reasons, but a bad idea because...

i honestly dont know. i cant think of even one.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
11001 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 12:57 pm to
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Snipe has had a number of "tough guy" posts the last two days (e.g., how he'd fix the overcrowded prison population). I'm sure he wouldn't be one to get all outraged at tough guy Sharia law then.





you confuse tough guy with refusing to play the PC game. Sorry if you're threatened by my lack of metorsexualism but "Tough Guy" is the furthest thing I am from.



quote:

(e.g., how he'd fix the overcrowded prison population)


Sorry I don't sugar coat things for you all's tenders ears/eyes. I got no need for ignorant thugs that can't get it through their 3rd grade educated heads that there are rules and laws for a reason. I personally don't think they should be living at my and your financial expense. I'm not looking to win any humanitarian awards. But I also know its fantasy because there are too many people out there who feel sorry for these kind of societal failures.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 1:03 pm to
Break the law, drown. Snipes law and order paradise.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35242 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 1:04 pm to
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Sorry I don't sugar coat things for you all's tenders ears/eyes. I got no need for ignorant thugs that can't get it through their 3rd grade educated heads that there are rules and laws for a reason. I personally don't think they should be living at my and your financial expense.
Well I completely understand the basis for this view actually. I'm just like making fun (i.e., tough guy) of when people act like they would be the one's willing to get their hands dirty. Maybe you would, but most of the time I suspect most would chicken out instead (note: I would too).
This post was edited on 6/29/17 at 1:04 pm
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 1:06 pm to
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for budget reasons i can understand why they cant always have two officers together, but to have someone whom you think is drunk, someone that you arent watching, handcuffed in the back of a boat as you speed off at 47mph on a lake, is the peak of negligence.

there HAS to be someone else in the boat watching the kid in a situation like that.

the definition of "manslaughter"...

"the crime of killing a human being without malice aforethought, or otherwise in circumstances not amounting to murder."

if his actions dont fit that, then its not a real thing, its not a real crime, its meaningless.


IF you were going to stretch it that, negligent homicide seems more reasonable.


Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
10454 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 1:13 pm to
Why are their special laws for when the officer is the victim but not if they are the one committing the act?

They should be held to a higher standard.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 1:56 pm to
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like the officer kicked him over board, which he didn't


He might as well had. I don't think life in prison is too harsh of a sentence.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 1:58 pm to
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Why are their special laws for when the officer is the victim but not if they are the one committing the act?

They should be held to a higher standard.


Yes they should be. No argument from me

but "held to a higher standard " doesn't mean just make up laws and don't worry about things like innocent until proven guilty either.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111608 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 3:00 pm to
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I will back off this comment - I read the longer article where the trooper only had two hours of training to work on the water and admitted that the training was inadequate.


In 2011, Missouri merged our water patrol with Highway patrol. Consequently, a lot of boys with little water experience ended up working at the Lake. Shocking that no one saw anything like this coming.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111608 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 3:04 pm to
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That's just evil. The officer never went into the water to get him. Extending a pole out for the guy to grab when he knew he was handcuffed.


Ok. This clearly wasn't a training issue. frick that guy.
Posted by Big12fan
Dallas
Member since Nov 2011
5340 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 3:05 pm to
Back the blue or they'll turn you blue.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 3:06 pm to
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Ok. This clearly wasn't a training issue. frick that guy.

Yeah.

And besides. Exactly how much "training" is really required to know you should properly life vest a guy. They said they got a 2 week course.

I'm guessing in the 2 weeks, they covered fricking life vests.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
49025 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 3:11 pm to
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Enjoy your presence on an FBI list



Lol yes because an officer handcuffed a young man and drowned him in a lake he's a hero to the big government types.
Posted by 225bred
COYS
Member since Jun 2011
20386 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 3:12 pm to
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still more punishment than Ted Kennedy got

Who the frick downvotes this??
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72708 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 3:47 pm to
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Strannix


I've seen the rest of the stupidity you try to pass as murder.
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