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re: Muslim poll responses "Religion of peace" (Pew research)
Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:43 am to TX Tiger
Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:43 am to TX Tiger
quote:
It says I shouldn't come to the poliboard unless I feel like banging my head against the wa
The problem with people like you is that you say a bunch of shite, but there is literally 0% substance. Then you walk away wondering why the conversation didn't go anywhere and thinking you are banging your head against the wall.
It's kind of hard for our conversation to go anywhere when you cant answer the question in the OP and you post random Noam Chomsky memes
This post was edited on 6/5/17 at 12:44 am
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Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:54 am to TX Tiger
Not to mention you were proven wrong on your original statement that there is no religion of peace
You totally ignored that, and the fact that your illogical presumption that there is no religion of peace somehow means that one religion can't be more peaceful then others.
Regardless of our differences of opinion, your statement has no basis in logic. And that was the only thing of substance you said in this thread so far
You totally ignored that, and the fact that your illogical presumption that there is no religion of peace somehow means that one religion can't be more peaceful then others.
Regardless of our differences of opinion, your statement has no basis in logic. And that was the only thing of substance you said in this thread so far
Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:56 am to WaWaWeeWa
quote:Why don't you make it easy for the rest of us by just posting what you want us to parrot back to you. That way you can at least walk away happy.
The problem with people like you is that you say a bunch of shite, but there is literally 0% substance. Then you walk away wondering why the conversation didn't go anywhere and thinking you are banging your head against the wall.
It's kind of hard for our conversation to go anywhere when you cant answer the question in the OP and you post random Noam Chomsky memes
Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:03 am to WaWaWeeWa
There are only a few million Thai Muslims. 95%+ of the country is some form of Buddhist.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:09 am to WaWaWeeWa
quote:You mean this....
You totally ignored that, and the fact that your illogical presumption that there is no religion of peace somehow means that one religion can't be more peaceful then others.
quote:
Just because there is no completely peaceful religion, doesn't mean that a certain religion can't lead to more violence than others
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Of course
Let me help you out...because I'm here to help....
quote:Words have meaning; try to learn some. Maybe start with some easy ones...because "of course" is understandably for the more learned.
"of course"
phrase of course
1.used to introduce an idea or turn of events as being obvious or to be expected.
"the point is, of course, that the puzzle itself is misleading"
synonyms: naturally, as might be expected, as you/one would expect, needless to say, certainly, to be sure, as a matter of course, obviously, it goes without saying; informalnatch
"there are, of course, exceptions to the rule"
Posted on 6/5/17 at 5:39 am to TX Tiger
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Additionally, there is no religion that is a religion of peace. Why would you single out Islam other than the nonstop propaganda compels you to as it is intended.
Despite what you think, I actually want you to have a logical argument that night change my mind. That is exactly why I created this thread. It is just frustrating when facts are immediately dismissed with words such as propaganda with no explanation.
quote:
Of course
Thanks for the definition. My response was in direct opposition to your initial point of saying there is no religion of peace and then asking why I singled out Islam. So, you have either changed your position (which is fine) or we still do not agree.
My belief is that the results of the poll are legit, actually maybe slightly under estimate, the thoughts of the Muslims polled. And that the results demonstrate the Islam IN IT'S CURRENT STATE is a doctrine that breads violence due to some of its core dogmatic principles. And NOT because of foreign intervention as demonstrated by the consistency of thought throughout the muslim world even in regions that have seen no significant foreign intervention
Feel free to agree or disagree with any/all of that, but please state why
Posted on 6/5/17 at 5:43 am to lynxcat
quote:
There are only a few million Thai Muslims. 95%+ of the country is some form of Buddhist.
In my mind, this only proves my point
This group of Muslims is surrounded by a peaceful religion in a region that has not had significant foreign intervention/wars, so why do they want to impose sharia law and death to apostates if Islam in a vacuum is a peaceful religion, and only turned violent by our actions like others have suggested?
TX Tiger, feel free to answer that
Posted on 6/5/17 at 6:00 am to WaWaWeeWa
Are there poll results for Muslims living in the US?
Posted on 6/5/17 at 6:01 am to TX Tiger
quote:
Additionally, there is no religion that is a religion of peace. Why would you single out Islam other than the nonstop propaganda compels you to as it is intended.
Perhaps because they single themsleves out routinely during their reoccurring murder sprees?
Posted on 6/5/17 at 6:39 am to Jorts R Us
quote:
Are there poll results for Muslims living in the US?
I've seen some. I don't know the numbers or have a link off hand, but I do know they are significantly less than what is shown in the OP. We could discuss that more but first can you answer my question.
Is the poll legit?
Yes or no, if no then why
Posted on 6/5/17 at 6:57 am to WaWaWeeWa
Is it legit? I have no clue.
I'm not attempting to defend Islam or trying to make a case for it as the religion of choice.
Most of my posts have been in response to people suggesting that we need to throw each and every single last Muslim out of this country and/or wipe them off the face of the Earth. The reasonable among us know that's not going to happen.
As to what most Muslims support/believe? I don't profess to have had enough interaction to know what the majority support. At the end of the day, I'm not some message board cowboy who wants to go out and Kill everybody.
I'm not attempting to defend Islam or trying to make a case for it as the religion of choice.
Most of my posts have been in response to people suggesting that we need to throw each and every single last Muslim out of this country and/or wipe them off the face of the Earth. The reasonable among us know that's not going to happen.
As to what most Muslims support/believe? I don't profess to have had enough interaction to know what the majority support. At the end of the day, I'm not some message board cowboy who wants to go out and Kill everybody.
This post was edited on 6/5/17 at 6:58 am
Posted on 6/5/17 at 7:02 am to Jorts R Us
Well I'm not saying we should throw out every muslim.
And I mispoke it wasn't an American poll I was thinking of. It was British.
LINK
When asked if they favored some aspects of sharia 43% favored sharia law
However, I think that survey is basically worthless because they said "some aspects" and didn't ask specific statements like death to apostates. Because "sharia law" is a vague term and doesn't necessarily mean violence, as indicated by the results in the poll in the OP.
And I mispoke it wasn't an American poll I was thinking of. It was British.
LINK
When asked if they favored some aspects of sharia 43% favored sharia law
However, I think that survey is basically worthless because they said "some aspects" and didn't ask specific statements like death to apostates. Because "sharia law" is a vague term and doesn't necessarily mean violence, as indicated by the results in the poll in the OP.
This post was edited on 6/5/17 at 7:04 am
Posted on 6/5/17 at 7:16 am to Jorts R Us
quote:
Most of my posts have been in response to people suggesting that we need to throw each and every single last Muslim out of this country and/or wipe them off the face of the Earth. The reasonable among us know that's not going to happen.
You acted surprised that some feel this way. In my opinion it is a natural response of a certain percentage of people. This group has been "radicalized" by a MSM that refuses to criticize Islam in any way or a president who can't say radical Islamic terrorism. These things, in the face of obvious facts, make otherwise rational people turn irrational and say things like "just turn the whole place into glass"
If you are able to realize that, it may make you feel better about the average poster around here
Posted on 6/5/17 at 7:37 am to WaWaWeeWa
Islam = RAPE (Religion Against Peace Everywhere).
Posted on 6/5/17 at 7:41 am to WaWaWeeWa
While that's interesting I would rather have seen a poll of Muslims in the US, the UK and the EU.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 7:43 am to WaWaWeeWa
I understand the frustration (shocker: I'm Republican) but lunatic fringe posts are lunatic fringe posts in my eyes.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 8:13 am to Revelator
quote:Then perhaps it is time we as Americans demand that the establishment that controls this country stop creating, funding and training these POS, instead of posting propaganda polls and starting endless threads on how mean they are?
Additionally, there is no religion that is a religion of peace. Why would you single out Islam other than the nonstop propaganda compels you to as it is intended.
Perhaps because they single themsleves out routinely during their reoccurring murder sprees?
It's just so typical of this board that the effect is beaten to death (no pun intended) while the cause is completely ignored.
That's what propaganda is designed to do, distract. And those on this board (generally speaking: I'd guess 85-90% of you) lap it up as fast as it is published.
These POS who create chaos would never have the opportunity to do so without tremendous funding from somewhere. Why isn't that the topic of conversation around here? Who is funding these POS and why?
No, that conversation won't happen on this board. Why? Because the job of the media is to spew the kind of propaganda in the OP. And collectively, this board doesn't have the maturity to understand that.
Here's something to chew on: Do you think that if every Muslim was wiped off the face of the Earth, the establishment would stop creating, training and funding other terrorists in order to accomplish their own agenda?
If the answer is no (the correct answer) then any and all discussion of Muslims is a waste of time, isn't it.
This post was edited on 6/5/17 at 8:27 am
Posted on 6/5/17 at 8:25 am to WaWaWeeWa
quote:There are 3.3 million Muslims in this country alone. If the gibberish you present is true, there would be severed heads rolling in the streets of America.
the results demonstrate the Islam IN IT'S CURRENT STATE is a doctrine that breads violence due to some of its core dogmatic principles. And NOT because of foreign intervention as demonstrated by the consistency of thought throughout the Muslim world even in regions that have seen no significant foreign intervention
Who is funding these acts and why? That's the question you should be asking. But you don't. Instead, you're stuck on concentrating on the propaganda. And that's why it is shoved down our throats 24/7, to distract us from asking questions like who benefits?
It's one hell of a coincidence that after 1,400 years of this "jihad" that only now have we Americans become interested and aware of it, at the EXACT SAME TIME the establishment needs us fear and hate them in order to get us behind their decades-long agenda in the Middle East.
It's all one great big coincidence, amirite?
Keep lapping up the propaganda.
Keep playing into the establishment's hands.
Keep willfully allowing yourself to be distracted as this country sinks further and further into Fascism.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 8:27 am to TX Tiger
quote:
It's just so typical of this board that the effect is beaten to death (no pun intended) while the cause is completely ignored.
Just slow down. I'm willing to have a reasonable discussion but we can't even get out of the starting blocks
You seem to believe that the problem is singular (establishment)
I think it is multi factoral. The establishment is part of the problem, I'm not denying that. I also believe there are aspects of Islam that make it unique because it already has a stronger basis in violence than other religions.
The poll that you so quickly label as propaganda supports that theory. So, you see, it does get at the cause of the problem.
We aren't talking about terrorism. Your Noam Chomsky talking points aren't working here
This post was edited on 6/5/17 at 8:29 am
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