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Posted on 6/5/17 at 4:28 pm to DawgsLife
I'm somewhat curious too, but it doesn't change how I feel about the poll
I think British and US Muslims would not favor sharia because they place western values above Islamic dogmatic principles (sharia). It is not because they are somehow "more faithful" or have elevated their understanding. These are all left wing excuses to ignore the fact that Islam has a strong basis in violence.
I think it is clearly explained in the polling results from less western countries (Thialand, Malaysia, Bangladesh, etc.) which don't have a history of recent wars/intervention that Islamic violence can be blamed on.
The fact is people can move away traditional Islamic values and from this violence by adopting more western modern values, but the left/MSM can't even bring itself to criticize anything about Islam. This is not a good path to modernization. We need Islamic assimilation into western societies, not the opposite.
I think British and US Muslims would not favor sharia because they place western values above Islamic dogmatic principles (sharia). It is not because they are somehow "more faithful" or have elevated their understanding. These are all left wing excuses to ignore the fact that Islam has a strong basis in violence.
I think it is clearly explained in the polling results from less western countries (Thialand, Malaysia, Bangladesh, etc.) which don't have a history of recent wars/intervention that Islamic violence can be blamed on.
The fact is people can move away traditional Islamic values and from this violence by adopting more western modern values, but the left/MSM can't even bring itself to criticize anything about Islam. This is not a good path to modernization. We need Islamic assimilation into western societies, not the opposite.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 7:01 pm to WaWaWeeWa
quote:Polls can reveal whatever data you want them to. Not sure how many times this has to be explained to you.
Anyone who would take what a poll says as fact, would come to that conclusion
So is every poll unreliable or just polls about Islam?
quote:And yet you can't figure out that every piece of information you are fed has a purpose.
That's like saying if you can't give me the name, address and phone number of the person who built the bullet that killed JFK, it proves that Oswald acted alone.
That's a nice strawman, but it doesn't really apply here. Atleast I could place Oswald at the scene.
quote:Pew is a polling system. It is a tool used in the overall propaganda. The fact that this has to be explained to you tells me you have a lot to learn.
You can't even offer a shred of speculative evidence that Pew is somehow bias with regard to Islam.
I have offered you several avenues of research. I can't make you drink.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 7:23 pm to TX Tiger
quote:
I have offered you several avenues of research. I can't make you drink.
Yet none of them talk about fake polls, specifically fake polls by Pew funded by the establishment who is also funding terrorism, as you so eloquently put it.
... It's called a conspiracy theory. One that isn't based on any reproducible facts.
I'm just asking for a single shred of evidence. Anything. A Noam Chomsky quote. An anonymous blog post. Anything. You can't even do that.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 7:25 pm to TX Tiger
The other clowns around here won't even touch this topic. I'll give you credit for at least trying. They run as soon as you ask a straightforward question.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 7:25 pm to WaWaWeeWa
Taking all the polls together...
It's apparent Pakistan and Afghanistan are the most fricked place on the planet for anyone not a hard-core Muslim, for women and for civil liberties.
It's apparent Pakistan and Afghanistan are the most fricked place on the planet for anyone not a hard-core Muslim, for women and for civil liberties.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 7:35 pm to WaWaWeeWa
quote:This is why I don't normally offer links or "evidence." Because it is completely ignored and summarily criticized without so much as a glance.
I have offered you several avenues of research. I can't make you drink.
Yet none of them talk about fake polls, specifically fake polls by Pew funded by the establishment who is also funding terrorism, as you so eloquently put it.
... It's called a conspiracy theory. One that isn't based on any reproducible facts.
I'm just asking for a single shred of evidence. Anything. A Noam Chomsky quote. An anonymous blog post. Anything. You can't even do that.
I've offered you hours upon hours of research information. On this board, that equals conspiracy theory.
Yet in typical poliboard protocol you trot out some random poll, and you actually peddle that as fact.
This is why this board is the laughing stock of TD, and why I no longer bother to discuss things here.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 7:44 pm to WaWaWeeWa
quote:There's probably a good reason for that. We know what it is. Sadly, you haven't figured it out yet.
The other clowns around here won't even touch this topic.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 7:45 pm to WaWaWeeWa
I posted the exact same stuff in another thread a few years back. In order to properly appreciate this data, reconcile it to actual numbers of humans.
By this, I mean that the Pew data is presented as % of Muslims in each country without considering what population size that represents. Run those numbers and it actually makes this look worse, something like 20-25% of Muslims on Earth have a world view compatible with life past the 15th century and the rest don't.
By this, I mean that the Pew data is presented as % of Muslims in each country without considering what population size that represents. Run those numbers and it actually makes this look worse, something like 20-25% of Muslims on Earth have a world view compatible with life past the 15th century and the rest don't.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 7:46 pm to TX Tiger
Dude. Seriously? The thread is about a poll
I posted a poll
You said it was propaganda about 10 times
I said prove it
You
Me
You
Nothing that you posted anywhere in this thread could even remotely be consider supporting evidence of your claim. NOTHING.
Do you know how a debate works? You can't just make a claim and not back it up. How could you ever expect to convince anyone of anything?
I posted a poll
You said it was propaganda about 10 times
I said prove it
You
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Do the research, I'm not going to write a dissertation on the subject. Over 13 years on this board, I've done that ad nauseam. Read the PNAC document Research the Petro Dollar Research the Oil Bourse Research poppies and pipelines in Afghanistan, as well as trillions in untapped natural resources. That'll get you started. Bottom line, we're in the Middle East for regime change, and control over central banking systems, pipelines, saving the US dollar through the Petro Dollar, and enormous profit (at our expense of course).
Me
quote:
I'll definitely look into that. Does any of that specifically link Pew Research to funding from the same sources that are funding terrorism.
You
quote:
Not that I recall, but polls can show whatever data they want. Pew is not different.
Nothing that you posted anywhere in this thread could even remotely be consider supporting evidence of your claim. NOTHING.
Do you know how a debate works? You can't just make a claim and not back it up. How could you ever expect to convince anyone of anything?
Posted on 6/5/17 at 7:54 pm to WaWaWeeWa
quote:
Nothing that you posted anywhere in this thread could even remotely be consider supporting evidence of your claim. NOTHING.
Do you know how a debate works? You can't just make a claim and not back it up. How could you ever expect to convince anyone of anything?
I've given you PLENTY of research to get you started.
quote:Yet for five pages, that's exactly what you're doing.
You can't just make a claim and not back it up.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 7:56 pm to TX Tiger
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Yet in typical poliboard protocol you trot out some random poll, and you actually peddle that as fact. This is why this board is the laughing stock of TD, and why I no longer bother to discuss things here.
No. This board is a joke because people like you who can't respond to a very direct question in response to a ridiculous claim you have made atleast 10 times
I'm not talking about what you know about the middle east. It sounds like you are knowledgeable and well read.
I'm asking you to show me any evidence you have that Pew research is propaganda funded by the establishment to create fake polls about Muslims.
Or you can just say you don't know anything about the poll, didn't read the methods, and just go on your way with your head in the sand
Posted on 6/5/17 at 8:03 pm to WaWaWeeWa
quote:Or, I could post some random poll that backs my agenda and insist it is the gospel and call anyone who doesn't agree with me a conspiracy theorist and post juvenile pictures to go along with it just to solidify for everyone the level of my maturity.
Yet in typical poliboard protocol you trot out some random poll, and you actually peddle that as fact. This is why this board is the laughing stock of TD, and why I no longer bother to discuss things here.
No. This board is a joke because people like you who can't respond to a very direct question in response to a ridiculous claim you have made atleast 10 times
I'm not talking about what you know about the middle east. It sounds like you are knowledgeable and well read.
I'm asking you to show me any evidence you have that Pew research is propaganda funded by the establishment to create fake polls about Muslims.
Or you can just say you don't know anything about the poll, didn't read the methods, and just go on your way with your head in the sand
Like I said, you'll fit in perfectly with this board.
Just don't be surprised if I poke my head in from time to time just make fun of your naivety and ignorance.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 8:05 pm to TX Tiger
Nobody is worried about a clinically insane person laughing at them.
When did Ron Paul get corrrupted by the elites?
When did Ron Paul get corrrupted by the elites?
This post was edited on 6/5/17 at 8:06 pm
Posted on 6/5/17 at 8:10 pm to TX Tiger
ZERO evidence
Is there not even a breitbart for liberals where you could find something claiming Pew is propaganda funded by the establishment to smear muslims?
Is Pew dishonest in everything they do? Or do they just make fake studies of Muslims?
Is there not even a breitbart for liberals where you could find something claiming Pew is propaganda funded by the establishment to smear muslims?
Is Pew dishonest in everything they do? Or do they just make fake studies of Muslims?
Posted on 6/5/17 at 8:14 pm to WaWaWeeWa
Tx isn't liberal he's just crazy - or at least he plays a crazy guy on a message board for kicks.
He thinks everything but what he reads is fake news, but he will never come out and directly tell anyone what he reads and how he knows it's not fake.
He thinks everything but what he reads is fake news, but he will never come out and directly tell anyone what he reads and how he knows it's not fake.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 8:15 pm to WaWaWeeWa
quote:ZERO research.
ZERO evidence
quote:Yes, hold on while I run to another propaganda site to debunk your propaganda. You are brilliant, sir.
Is there not even a breitbart for liberals where you could find something claiming Pew is propaganda funded by the establishment to smear muslims?
quote:Not sure why I'm having to say this for a fourth time, but here goes....Poll results show whatever the person conducting the poll wants them to show. Why is this not getting through to you?
Is Pew dishonest in everything they do? Or do they just make fake studies of Muslims?
You are so typical of this board. It doesn't matter what I say to you, you only hear the things that correspond to your agenda. It's why I'm not wasting my time with some in-depth dissertation. It does no good.
You hoped, like 95% of the people who post on this board, that you could rally up a circle jerk. It didn't happen and now you're mad. Go to your safe place.
This post was edited on 6/5/17 at 8:21 pm
Posted on 6/5/17 at 8:16 pm to Y.A. Tittle
Ok I get it now
This post was edited on 6/5/17 at 8:17 pm
Posted on 6/5/17 at 8:17 pm to Y.A. Tittle
quote:
Tx isn't liberal he's just crazy - or at least he plays a crazy guy on a message board for kicks.
He thinks everything but what he reads is fake news, but he will never come out and directly tell anyone what he reads and how he knows it's not fake.
I gave your buddy about five different avenues to research. I guess you want me to go over to his trailer park and read it to him. Is that it?
Tittle, you crack me up. I think I like you most of all.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 8:18 pm to WaWaWeeWa
You are a very patient man. God bless you.
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