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re: Mulvaney: "if you're on food stamps and able bodied, you need to be working" Left freaks
Posted on 5/24/17 at 11:04 am to Superior Pariah
Posted on 5/24/17 at 11:04 am to Superior Pariah
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Where is "The Left" freaking out about that comment?
I guess you missed Hillary's comments.
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Posted on 5/24/17 at 11:07 am to UHTiger
From link-
80 hrs or volunteer work?
Yeah, this doesn't encourage abuse at all.
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Most SNAP participants who can work, do work.
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Forty-three percent of SNAP participants live in a household with earnings.
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To be eligible beyond the time limit, an ABAWD must work at least 80 hours per month, participate in qualifying education and training activities at least 80 hours per month, or comply with a workfare program. Workfare means that ABAWDs can do unpaid work through a special State-approved program. For workfare, the amount of time worked depends on the amount of benefits received each month.
80 hrs or volunteer work?
Yeah, this doesn't encourage abuse at all.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 11:09 am to bamarep
I didn't miss it. Not once did she her comments correlate to the quote in the OP.
That would be called a false equivalency.
That would be called a false equivalency.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 11:15 am to cave canem
I would like someone to define what a prog, lib, and conservative is since the 2016 election, I really don't know at this point in time.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 11:19 am to cave canem
Common sense is dead, and the takers are reproducing at rates that the workers can't compete with, cause they are working, stressed, and know they can't provide for a family of 5-6 adequately. System is rigged for one side, and everyone knows it....
Posted on 5/24/17 at 11:24 am to UHTiger
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Ummm....this is already a requirement. There are a few listed exceptions to the work requirement.
Not sure what you (and mulvaney) are going on about.
SNAP recipients are required to work
Yeah, and I bet SSI only goes to people actually disabled
Posted on 5/24/17 at 11:26 am to Andychapman13
quote:How would working in a school system make you any more informed on food stamps?
I work for the school system, I guarantee you that the rule speak of is not enforced, at all!
Posted on 5/24/17 at 11:28 am to redneck hippie
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I'd be considered liberal by most on this board but I don't want anyone getting anything they don't deserve or work for.
I think MOST liberals think that way. And by the same token, I think MOST conservatives want people who truly need help to get it.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 11:33 am to bamarep
I agree 100%. Welfare should be for those who are chronically ill or disabled. Those who care for those people also should be helped. We aren't callous to those needs, but if you are able to work and healthy you need to be out there trying.
Having said that, I am equally against Corporate welfare. In fact it enrages me just as much. They wouldn't make it without the taxpayer fronting their failing businesses.
If we are hard after the poor who refuse to contribute then our great President and Washington should be equally adamant about phony shite corporations that feed of the middle-class too.
Former Oklahoma governor had an ad recently in Oklahoma apologizing to the state for funneling their hard-earned tax money to corporate welfare.
Both things need to be addressed, but of course we all can get behind the poor bastard who is ripping the system.
Having said that, I am equally against Corporate welfare. In fact it enrages me just as much. They wouldn't make it without the taxpayer fronting their failing businesses.
If we are hard after the poor who refuse to contribute then our great President and Washington should be equally adamant about phony shite corporations that feed of the middle-class too.
Former Oklahoma governor had an ad recently in Oklahoma apologizing to the state for funneling their hard-earned tax money to corporate welfare.
Both things need to be addressed, but of course we all can get behind the poor bastard who is ripping the system.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 11:36 am to bamarep
Some do work, but still need assistance. Some need assistance because they have too many children. That is the root of the damn problem. These women have to stop having kids and expect to get taken care of because of their careless actions. It is down right selfish to bring a child into the world in a unstable environment.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 11:37 am to thetigerman
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What about able-bodied people who can't work because they are caring for sick or indigent loved ones?
wait a second, son, you're empathetic tone is NOT welcome here.
if you're on food stamps, you're lazy...period. duh.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 11:40 am to DawgsLife
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think MOST liberals think that way. And by the same token, I think MOST conservatives want people who truly need help to get it.
I think MOST people like you drink the kool-aid.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 11:43 am to Superior Pariah
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Where is "The Left" freaking out about that comment?
Here are some examples:
Mulvaney Lies to Justify the Destruction of the Social Safety Net
Destroying the Safety Net Programs? Hyperbole much?
The White House threatened to veto the Republicans' food stamps bill, and Senate Democrats angrily criticized the level of cuts. "The Senate will never pass such hateful, punitive legislation," said Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.).
Hateful, punitive legislation
ETA
I will admit that the second link is to a different circumstance, but they are addressing the same basic premise.
This post was edited on 5/24/17 at 11:47 am
Posted on 5/24/17 at 11:44 am to UHTiger
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Ummm....this is already a requirement.
And it is policed every bit as thoroughly as our immigration laws.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 11:45 am to jptiger2009
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I think MOST people like you drink the kool-aid.
Maybe. Start a thread and ask an honest, non-trolling question, and I think you will be surprised by how both sides answer.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 11:45 am to bamarep
New words heard at work... "45 ain't gonna put up with that shite".... in a conversation about her daughter having another baby out of wedlock.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 11:47 am to MontyFranklyn
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These women have to stop having kids and expect to get taken care of because of their careless actions. It is down right selfish to bring a child into the world in a unstable environment.
True. Men,should also be more cautious and tend to their offspring.
Do you think women might be less likely to beeed recklessly if they knew there would be no bennies waiting for them? Do you think men might be more likely to stick around if they knew their children could starve otherwise?
This post was edited on 5/24/17 at 11:48 am
Posted on 5/24/17 at 11:47 am to DawgsLife
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I think MOST liberals think that way. And by the same token, I think MOST conservatives want people who truly need help to get it.
This is accurate, but it's not what both sides of the Powers That Be want us to believe. It's better if we think of Conservatives as cold, heartless people who want children to starve to death. It's better if we think Liberals are moochers who will drive the entire country down into poverty by providing nothing and taking everything.
The truth is nowhere near either idea, but that doesn't go along with those in power. They need us to hate each other, and the best way to do so is to paint each side in broad strokes of extremist views.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 11:48 am to MontyFranklyn
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because of their careless actions. It is down right selfish to bring a child into the world in a unstable environment.
Has nothing to do with careless actions but everything to do with, the more dependents you have the more welfare you qualify for.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 11:49 am to DawgsLife
seriously, what in the actual frick are you talking about? I hate bleeding heart liberals, but folks like you are purebreds down south.
you think capitalistic conservatives (the heartbeat of our economy) give 2 actual fricks about the people? The ONLY fricks they give are the fricks that they're regulated to give a frick about. you are a sheep
you think capitalistic conservatives (the heartbeat of our economy) give 2 actual fricks about the people? The ONLY fricks they give are the fricks that they're regulated to give a frick about. you are a sheep
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