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re: Mulvaney: "if you're on food stamps and able bodied, you need to be working" Left freaks
Posted on 5/24/17 at 11:49 am to MontyFranklyn
Posted on 5/24/17 at 11:49 am to MontyFranklyn
I actually know of women telling their friends they are going to get "f--cked" to get another kid for more welfare.
When I was younger I had girls I knew who openly told me these stories. Now, them following through and getting their wish is another story as talk is cheap, but the idea they can get more and know they can is an absolute fact.
They get child-support from the dumb freak who got her pregnant (not saying all men are responsible as some were married and their sorry arse wife freaked them over. That is a major reason why many men don't risk marriage) that is outrageous in amount compared to reality along with government subsidies.
My sister was a welfare whore for years before she met her money-maker a few years ago and they got married.
She had a nice trailer in an affluent neighborhood and she worked a measly job making little, but she brought in 1,000 a month in child support for two kids along with food stamps and help with her bills.
Her place was better than mine and I was a single male working a full-time job making more money.
The system is a joke and is helping in destroying incentive to marry to those who can't afford a failed marriage as they aren't rich or a family that is rich.
When I was younger I had girls I knew who openly told me these stories. Now, them following through and getting their wish is another story as talk is cheap, but the idea they can get more and know they can is an absolute fact.
They get child-support from the dumb freak who got her pregnant (not saying all men are responsible as some were married and their sorry arse wife freaked them over. That is a major reason why many men don't risk marriage) that is outrageous in amount compared to reality along with government subsidies.
My sister was a welfare whore for years before she met her money-maker a few years ago and they got married.
She had a nice trailer in an affluent neighborhood and she worked a measly job making little, but she brought in 1,000 a month in child support for two kids along with food stamps and help with her bills.
Her place was better than mine and I was a single male working a full-time job making more money.
The system is a joke and is helping in destroying incentive to marry to those who can't afford a failed marriage as they aren't rich or a family that is rich.
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Posted on 5/24/17 at 11:49 am to redneck hippie
quote:Oh, but why not?
I don't want anyone getting anything they don't deserve or work for.
It could have been you that was born lazy and dim-witted, into a situation with no kind of support or family structure to impress upon you the value and dignity of hard work. Then it would have been you living by means which you did not work for.
The fact that it is not is simply your good luck and their bad. Why should prosperity and happiness be determined by mere chance at birth?
This post was edited on 5/24/17 at 11:51 am
Posted on 5/24/17 at 11:50 am to skrayper
quote:
The truth is nowhere near either idea, but that doesn't go along with those in power. They need us to hate each other, and the best way to do so is to paint each side in broad strokes of extremist views.
Exactly!
Posted on 5/24/17 at 11:52 am to LSUnKaty
I'm trying.....I....
I can't tell. Is your sarcasm font on?
I can't tell. Is your sarcasm font on?
Posted on 5/24/17 at 11:54 am to bamarep
Its really quite simple.
Ineligible for food stamps/section 8/welfare:
18-65
No disability
No dependents
Zero exceptions. Exceptions create bureaucracy and unnecessary costs. A computer can deny claims.
Ineligible for food stamps/section 8/welfare:
18-65
No disability
No dependents
Zero exceptions. Exceptions create bureaucracy and unnecessary costs. A computer can deny claims.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 11:54 am to jptiger2009
quote:
you think capitalistic conservatives (the heartbeat of our economy) give 2 actual fricks about the people? The ONLY fricks they give are the fricks that they're regulated to give a frick about. you are a sheep
Yeah. Sure.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 11:55 am to thetigerman
quote:Although that is true in some instances, it is not the norm. People overall need to be more accountable for their actions in general. For the life of me I can't understand why people don't get LTC coverage or life insurance, short term and long term disability. They aren't being very responsible if you ask me.
What about able-bodied people who can't work because they are caring for sick or indigent loved ones?
Posted on 5/24/17 at 11:58 am to Lg
quote:wrong. That is a blanketed generalizing statement that just isn't true across the board. Regardless, the actions are careless and very selfish.
Has nothing to do with careless actions but everything to do with, the more dependents you have the more welfare you qualify for.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 11:59 am to reo45
quote:
She had a nice trailer in an affluent neighborhood
??????
Posted on 5/24/17 at 11:59 am to bamarep
quote:
Mulvaney: "if you're on food stamps and able bodied, you need to be working" Left freaks
Well, of course. That's the Dems' core constituency.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 12:00 pm to MontyFranklyn
The LTC market was crushed by a rush of insurers flooding the market and claims exceeded premiums.
LTC plans now are crazy expensive.
LTC plans now are crazy expensive.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 12:04 pm to reo45
quote:At least she was smart enough to get knocked up by a guy that can pay some money in child support. Too many of these women have kids by guys that have no earning potential at all.
She had a nice trailer in an affluent neighborhood and she worked a measly job making little, but she brought in 1,000 a month in child support for two kids along with food stamps and help with her bills.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 12:06 pm to roadGator
quote:That is the price you have to pay. You have to plan ahead. There are annuity products now that offer LTC coverage as a rider.
he LTC market was crushed by a rush of insurers flooding the market and claims exceeded premiums.
LTC plans now are crazy expensive.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 12:06 pm to HonoraryCoonass
quote:
??????
So true, I see the paradox, but trust me, it is true. Very affluent and in a great neighborhood. Shocking I know, but if I had pics I'd post them. Lived by one of the best elementary schools in the entire city.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 12:07 pm to LSUnKaty
Please be sarcasm.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 12:12 pm to LSUnKaty
quote:Even if that is the case you can go about life and be self sustaining. Perfect example. I know a black lady that is in her mid 40s, single with no kids and has 20k in the bank. She works two jobs making $11 or so at one and $8.50 at the other. She isn't very bright, but she makes decisions that are in her best interest.
Oh, but why not?
It could have been you that was born lazy and dim-witted, into a situation with no kind of support or family structure to impress upon you the value and dignity of hard work. Then it would have been you living by means which you did not work for.
The fact that it is not is simply your good luck and their bad. Why should prosperity and happiness be determined by mere chance at birth?
Posted on 5/24/17 at 12:14 pm to bamarep
I have often thought that a lifetime time limit would work. I understand the need for a safety net but it should not be for a lifetime.
I am thinking something like (government) assistance should be limited to no more than 5 years between ages 18-65. I am not including social security because that is paid into by the worker, I mean food stamps, housing, etc. for able bodied individuals.
I can understand that sometimes people get laid off and it takes time to find another job. The problem is that some people wont do a job that is "beneath" them. Taking a lower position might be humiliating, but it is a job and you can keep looking for a better job.
Hunger is a great motivator. I own my own business and make a good living, but I could leave here right now and find a job doing something (even without using my resume'). It might be bartending or delivering pizzas but it would be a job.
There could be additional time allowed if the recipient is going back to school or learning another trade, but the classes should be from a list of areas that there is a shortage of jobs. Not some worthless degree like gender studies, or theater or art history. Those areas are fine to have an interest in but historically they dont pay a wage high enough to live on.
I am thinking something like (government) assistance should be limited to no more than 5 years between ages 18-65. I am not including social security because that is paid into by the worker, I mean food stamps, housing, etc. for able bodied individuals.
I can understand that sometimes people get laid off and it takes time to find another job. The problem is that some people wont do a job that is "beneath" them. Taking a lower position might be humiliating, but it is a job and you can keep looking for a better job.
Hunger is a great motivator. I own my own business and make a good living, but I could leave here right now and find a job doing something (even without using my resume'). It might be bartending or delivering pizzas but it would be a job.
There could be additional time allowed if the recipient is going back to school or learning another trade, but the classes should be from a list of areas that there is a shortage of jobs. Not some worthless degree like gender studies, or theater or art history. Those areas are fine to have an interest in but historically they dont pay a wage high enough to live on.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 12:16 pm to Pinecone Repair
quote:
Please be sarcasm.
I honestly can't tell if he is being sarcastic or not!
Posted on 5/24/17 at 12:20 pm to MontyFranklyn
quote:
At least she was smart enough to get knocked up by a guy that can pay some money in child support. Too many of these women have kids by guys that have no earning potential at all.
She had to track him down through the courts and she waited until they took his checks. He ended up living with his parents again as he couldn't afford to live on his own as his money from working in natural gas was going to her.
I knew him pretty well and he didn't deserve that kind of pull from his wallet. He made good money in the natural gas field at about 1,000 a week possibly if the work was good. He still had to pay the 1,000 a month even if he was out of work for a period of time. So, he had to be frugal and smart with his money.
She wasn't rich and wasn't rolling in money, but she didn't have to do hardly anything to have what she had except raise her kids. We don't get along as you might understand
. So she had 1,000 a month in child support; over 300 a month in food stamps; help with her energy bill also. Her work went to her rent which was about 500 a month. Medicaid took care of her and her children. She did quite nicely for awhile before Dusty did get laid off and didn't pay. She then met Mr. Right. Survival. On the other hand I worked a full-time job out of high school making 10.50 an hour as a single male who paid for everything I had. I couldn't afford insurance and my employer offered a horrible, just horrible insurance plan since we had a horrible union. My food, rent, gas, utilities, etc... all with no help.
Tell me how that is fair?? Scratch that as I don't want fair, I want things to be right. The whole system is a joke.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 12:26 pm to reo45
smh.
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