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re: Mitt Romney agrees, Anti-Fa> White Supremacists
Posted on 8/15/17 at 10:22 pm to gamatt53
Posted on 8/15/17 at 10:22 pm to gamatt53
Why is that because to people like you its about image?
Holding up a swastika is somehow worse to you than a sickle and hammer?
Both should be equally swept under the rug or buried from thought. However one side has the media swooning over them and rinos taking their side.
This sets a horrible precedent and gives this trash more support.
Holding up a swastika is somehow worse to you than a sickle and hammer?
Both should be equally swept under the rug or buried from thought. However one side has the media swooning over them and rinos taking their side.
This sets a horrible precedent and gives this trash more support.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 10:23 pm to IAmReality
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Cuck Republicans still think they can win the media's rigged game.
Is it not amazing that the Republican Party establishment stalwarts STILL BELIEVE after all that has transpired over the decades, that they can get mass media to be nice to them?!?
Posted on 8/15/17 at 10:25 pm to Catman88
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Why is that because to people like you its about image
Everything is about Image that's just politics. My statement from the last page is absolutely true regardless if they both suck.
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"This group Antifa (that no one heard or cared about until last year) is just as bad as Nazis" - yea not the best frickin optics for a politician no?
This post was edited on 8/15/17 at 10:29 pm
Posted on 8/15/17 at 10:28 pm to Lou Pai
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I respected him for trying to torpedo Trump during the primaries and agree with him for doing so.
I didn't.
He showed more energy, effort and passion in trying to stop Trump and ensure a hillary victory than he ever did trying to win the White House in his own campaign and prevent Obama from getting a second term.
Nobody including Trump supporters thought he had it in him and it just pissed people off and reinforced the point of establishment being ok with other establishment winning.
frick him.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 10:30 pm to Champagne
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Is it not amazing that the Republican Party establishment stalwarts STILL BELIEVE after all that has transpired over the decades, that they can get mass media to be nice to them?!?
It's one of the most pathetic things I've ever seen. It's like they know they're losers and have no problem being just that and they get pissed off when they see a "republican" win against them.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 10:32 pm to gamatt53
So its all about a show to you.
Reality is that the ONLY reason Nazi flags are seen worse than Communist flags is that the American people for the most part dont have a fricking clue about the history of Solviet Russia. Hollywood hasnt done 10000 movies showing what genocide was performed there. Most Americans only think Cold War and Cuba when it comes to communism.
Reality is that the ONLY reason Nazi flags are seen worse than Communist flags is that the American people for the most part dont have a fricking clue about the history of Solviet Russia. Hollywood hasnt done 10000 movies showing what genocide was performed there. Most Americans only think Cold War and Cuba when it comes to communism.
This post was edited on 8/15/17 at 10:33 pm
Posted on 8/15/17 at 10:32 pm to gamatt53
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This group Antifa (that no one heard or cared about until last year) is just as bad as Nazis" - yea not the best fuEckin optics for a politician no?
I had never heard of Unity & Security for America until yesterday
Posted on 8/15/17 at 10:34 pm to CommoDawg
All of these people, Dems, Antifa, McCain, Romney, Rubio, media......they want to take Trump out, end of story.
Rubio tries to be more careful about it but he wants Trump out as much as anyone.
The only thing they haven't figured out is how to do it and not alienate Trump's supporters but trust me,they think about it daily.
None of them defend Trump,ever. Trump is right about both sides of this mess having bad actors. It should be easy for Republicans to defend him but no one will.
As long as Trump holds his base, he is gold unless they kill him and they just might do it one day God forbid.
Rubio tries to be more careful about it but he wants Trump out as much as anyone.
The only thing they haven't figured out is how to do it and not alienate Trump's supporters but trust me,they think about it daily.
None of them defend Trump,ever. Trump is right about both sides of this mess having bad actors. It should be easy for Republicans to defend him but no one will.
As long as Trump holds his base, he is gold unless they kill him and they just might do it one day God forbid.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 10:43 pm to Catman88
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So its all about a show to you
Im just stating facts buddy. People equate nazis with genocide and they equate Antifa (you remember the topic of this thread was Antifa va Nazis right) with being agaist Nazis.
That's current public opinion and it's a losing political battle to try and equate the two like you are doing especially after Saturday's car attack.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 10:47 pm to Tiger985
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All of these people, Dems, Antifa, McCain, Romney, Rubio, media......they want to take Trump out, end of story.
Rubio tries to be more careful about it but he wants Trump out as much as anyone.
The only thing they haven't figured out is how to do it and not alienate Trump's supporters but trust me,they think about it daily.
None of them defend Trump,ever. Trump is right about both sides of this mess having bad actors. It should be easy for Republicans to defend him but no one will.
As long as Trump holds his base, he is gold unless they kill him and they just might do it one day God forbid.
Yep.
The GOP is dirty rotten garbage and has truly exposed themselves the past several months not giving their voters what they promised them in ObamaCare repeal, lack of progress on tax cuts, antagonizing for world war 3 with russia and allowing baseless witch hunt investigations of Trump to go on unchecked.
frick them.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 10:47 pm to gamatt53
That is the first time I have heard that antifa was just a group of people that don't like nazis.
shite I might join up
shite I might join up
Posted on 8/15/17 at 10:48 pm to gamatt53
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People equate nazis with genocide and they equate Antifa (you remember the topic of this thread was Antifa va Nazis right) with being agaist Nazis.
Those people are stupid
Posted on 8/15/17 at 10:49 pm to Catman88
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that is the first time I have heard that antifa was just a group of people that don't like nazis.
That's the current framed and pushed opinion. To refute it is to try to explain how the nazis "haven't been that bad recently". Good luck. Especially after last weekend.
Or you can do the rational thing and condemn and distance yourself and party explicitly from Nazis and move on.
This post was edited on 8/15/17 at 11:06 pm
Posted on 8/15/17 at 10:51 pm to Catman88
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That is the first time I have heard that antifa was just a group of people that don't like nazis.
They've been creating violence since Trump won. They're commies
Posted on 8/15/17 at 10:52 pm to CommoDawg
uh yeah antifa >>>>>> white supremacists, that is obvious
Posted on 8/15/17 at 10:55 pm to Hog on the Hill
When's the last time a white supremacist opened fire on a contingent of unarmed congressmen playing baseball? They are all pieces of shite.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:02 pm to Lou Pai
quote:I'm pretty sure the 60 year old man from Indiana isn't antifa, but I get your point. He was a left wing extremist, no doubt about that.
When's the last time a white supremacist opened fire on a contingent of unarmed congressmen playing baseball? They are all pieces of shite.
Last weekend was the last time a white nationalist murdered a woman and injured 19 others by driving a car into them, in case you forgot.
Before you say, "both sides are just as bad!" just remember that white nationalists and supremacists are advocating for a white ethno-state and ethnic cleansing of the US. They were marching around Charlottesville saying "Jews will not replace us"
Hate speech of this kind is not benign. It threatens and intimidates people and it must be opposed in its nascent stage.
This post was edited on 8/15/17 at 11:07 pm
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:05 pm to gamatt53
You want me to distance my independent party from nazis?
Ummkay done
Did I do that fast enough or did I hesitate too long?
Ummkay done
Did I do that fast enough or did I hesitate too long?
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:08 pm to Catman88
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You want me to distance my independent party from nazis? Ummkay done Did I do that fast enough or did I hesitate too long?
I was talking about Romney's statement... you know the topic of the thread.
This post was edited on 8/15/17 at 11:10 pm
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:29 pm to boosiebadazz
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I looked at that itsgoingdown.org site. I can't agree with their ideology or tactics either. Different sides of the same coin with the Nazis to me.
The problem with Trump's series of reactions over the past few days boils down to two things:
1) Timing: he didn't come out quickly enough or boldly enough for people to believe that it was authentic, especially given his history of statements and some of his supporters
2) (Probably most importantly) He didn't tease out the despicable elements of the protesters (the Antifa types, the communists, the anarcho-syndicalists, etc.) from the every day person who didn't want that alt right element in their town. I would say most - probably a significant majority - of the protesters looked like regular college kids or just run-of-the-mill liberals. That didn't seem to be the case on the other side where almost all of the protesters seemed to be from some alt right org.
That said, I 100% agree with you regarding Antifa and their ilk. They are every bit as bad as any of the "blood and soil" nationalist types. I mean what's the difference in one ideology that killed tens of millions, ripped apart entire countries, enabled genocide, and played a major role in the bloodiest century in human history compared to the other ideology that killed tens of millions, ripped apart entire countries, enabled genocide, and played a major role in the bloodiest century? Antifa likes to fly the hammer and sickle, cops old Communist slogans, and so forth just like the alt right groups do the same for Nazism.
That's where I disagree with McCain and Romney (and I love Romney - he's still my favorite Republican from this century). Most of the protesters in Charlottesville protesting against the alt right types are perfectly good people, but there was an insidious element mixed in there that is every bit as bad as the white nationalists.
This post was edited on 8/15/17 at 11:37 pm
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