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re: New video surfaces of PP talking about performing Abortions - gamatt53
[quote]there is no ongoing need or demand for fetal tissue to produce vaccines, that is pure propaganda.[/quote] The article I linked didn't claim any differently - notice the word "WAS" right in what you quoted. There is an ongoing need for other treatments and research however (HIV, Parkinsons,...
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re: New video surfaces of PP talking about performing Abortions - gamatt53
[quote]I do not advocate drunk driving even though a supply of cadavers that are useful for advancing medicine results. I do not advocate abortion similarly. [/quote] The whole outrage in the videos was over the controversy of price negotiation for the tissue and the possibility for buyers of the...
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re: New video surfaces of PP talking about performing Abortions - gamatt53
[quote]The outrage toward PP is because they have been caught admitting to selling baby parts for money. That is illegal. [/quote] Legally you are allowed to be "reimbursed" the cost of procurement, storage, and transfer which are variable and negotiable. That means someone is paying them for it ...
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re: New video surfaces of PP talking about performing Abortions - gamatt53
[quote] Which is why he asked if you saw any moral differences and why? We are all waiting for your answer. I would like to see your answer for all his questions. Surely you have an opinion and can state that opinion? [/quote] I'll give my answer after you answer why you all are ok with bio...
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re: New video surfaces of PP talking about performing Abortions - gamatt53
[quote] Tell me when I am wrong when I say every advance that has come from fetal tissue research could have come by other means.[/quote] "[b]How do scientists use fetal tissue?[/b] It's used to find potential treatments for a wide range of common diseases and afflictions, including cancer, di...
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re: New video surfaces of PP talking about performing Abortions - gamatt53
[quote]Keeping it real for the unimaginative.One is called abortion, and the other human vivisection. 1-Do you see any moral differences? Why? 2-Do you favor or oppose abortion? Why? 3-Do you favor or oppose human vivisection? Why?[/quote] One is legal and happens thousands of times a day...
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re: New video surfaces of PP talking about performing Abortions - gamatt53
[quote]I include another medical procedure in light of supply and demand and scientific progress, and you obfuscate.[/quote] You yourself said I had to "imagine" to see the point you were trying to get around to. Guess my imagination isn't as vivid as yours ...
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re: New video surfaces of PP talking about performing Abortions - gamatt53
[quote]Actually no. He went into facs [/quote] He started his rebuttal with the word "imagine" [quote]pre fetal tissue harvesting era for research[/quote] Some of the old vaccines in the article were indeed before that. Not in a long time has that been the case however. The article listed m...
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re: New video surfaces of PP talking about performing Abortions - gamatt53
[quote]I know your holding an economics 101 on supply and demand. I know you are trying to point out the benefits that this medical procedure may offer. But let's leave the sterile academic environment and get into the blood and guts. Literally. [/quote] I was dealing in facts and you went off in...
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re: New video surfaces of PP talking about performing Abortions - gamatt53
[quote]Otherwise how else can us troglodytes be expected to boycott the proper suppliers/processes/medications???????[/quote] See above ...
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re: New video surfaces of PP talking about performing Abortions - gamatt53
[quote]Tell me the advances made from butchered babies! Convince me of the necessity of aborted babies[/quote] "How do scientists use fetal tissue? It's used to find potential treatments for a wide range of common diseases and afflictions, including cancer, diabetes, birth defects, HIV, mult...
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re: New video surfaces of PP talking about performing Abortions - gamatt53
[quote]So - I take it you are an expert in these matters[/quote] Nope but I asked the guy who stated this as fact [quote]. There is enough "fetal tissue" without killing the unborn[/quote] If he was. I haven't made any claims in this thread like that I'm only pointing out another way to lo...
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re: New video surfaces of PP talking about performing Abortions - gamatt53
[quote]That was your reasoning. I was merely trying to show you how dumb it was. Obviously, I was successful[/quote] I used my analogy to point the argument to the demand side of the fetal tissue trade. Everyone wants to demonized PP but there is a market for the tissue for a reason. Why don't yo...
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re: New video surfaces of PP talking about performing Abortions - gamatt53
[quote]There is enough "fetal tissue" without killing the unborn. [/quote] Are you an expert in the fetal tissue market? You know the supply and demand? Also - do you base your medical care treatment decisions based on the source of the tissue used in the discovery of that treatment? ...
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re: New video surfaces of PP talking about performing Abortions - gamatt53
[quote]So, if you buy food from the manager of Kroger and that manager drove drunk, does that mean you are for drunk driving? [/quote] Congrats. One of the worst analogies I have seen someone use here in months But sure - people on this board call for the boycott of things all the time for wa...
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re: New video surfaces of PP talking about performing Abortions - gamatt53
You should refuse all medical care, treatment, and vaccinations that were tested or discovered using fetal tissue. If you don't you are a hypocrite ...
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re: Trump takes his 10th golf trip in 8 weeks as president - gamatt53
[quote]It's a bitch aint it! [/quote] It certainly is. Millions down the drain. Was fricked up before and it's fricked up now ...
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re: Trump takes his 10th golf trip in 8 weeks as president - gamatt53
[quote]Its amazing how many fricks we give about Presidents playing golf and vacationing now, isn’t it folks?[/quote] Almost as amazing as how people used to give so many fricks but now are totally cool with it. ...
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re: Trump takes his 10th golf trip in 8 weeks as president - gamatt53
[img]http://static.snopes.com/app/uploads/2017/02/trump-obama-golf-tweet.jpg[/img] And he also said "I would not be a president who took vacations. I would not be a president that takes time off" ...
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re: How many times have you been sick this winter? - gamatt53
Zero. I do plan to get "sick" a few times this spring however once the grass on the fairways starts greening up and the bass start biting good. ...
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