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re: Michael Brown robbed store hours before his death ?
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:18 am to novabill
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:18 am to novabill
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White folks cannot have a dislike for cops abusing their power?
except you have no idea if the cop abused his power or not.
black guy, white cop, jump to conclusions
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Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:18 am to novabill
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Anyone with an opinion, even you, at this point would be guilty of jumping to conclusions, since the police are keeping everything a secret. Since when do that do that to protect the guilty criminals?
This. For all the idiots in this thread calling out liberals for jumping to conclusions, I've seen nothing in this thread that supports the bridge they walked across to defend their conclusions.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:18 am to novabill
I'm just hopeful that there is video. I presume there isn't but I'm hopeful.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:19 am to rb
Looks like he did. The pictures even match the description given by the eyewitness to the shooting who even places Brown in the store.
I have to wonder why this wasn't resolved on day one. Kid got shot in response to a strong armed robbery on the 9th. Within a few hours 50+ cops are involved with the scene / investigation. But the video wasn't picked up until the 10th and even then it wasn't reviewed right away? Then we don't even get still images until the 15th, and the police chief still can't make a coherent statement on the whole thing?
As for the burned down store, was that retaliation for calling 911?
I have to wonder why this wasn't resolved on day one. Kid got shot in response to a strong armed robbery on the 9th. Within a few hours 50+ cops are involved with the scene / investigation. But the video wasn't picked up until the 10th and even then it wasn't reviewed right away? Then we don't even get still images until the 15th, and the police chief still can't make a coherent statement on the whole thing?
As for the burned down store, was that retaliation for calling 911?
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:20 am to novabill
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But if that man hit me then distanced himself from me and surrendered
yeah...that happens all the time
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:20 am to FalseProphet
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defend their conclusions.
I havent made a conclusion, hell, the only ones making conclusions are the ones already saying it was police misconduct or murder etc.
Spare us all the hypocritical sermon reverend.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:20 am to kilo
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Some people dont want the facts and dont want to make informed and educated judgement about what happened. Thats very sad.
There are still many more questions to be answered but the disingenuous idiots that are already trying to say "the robbery doesnt mean anything" have already outed themselves as "not interested in the truth"
Some are looking for a reason to justify the cop.
As I stated earlier, the reason for the stop is immaterial to the larger issue of the shooting. Why was he shot? Was the cop in danger and protecting himself? Was the cop angry at getting hit by the kid?
The robbery does not mean anything regarding the shooting.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:22 am to novabill
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Nor would I. But if that man hit me then distanced himself from me and surrendered, as has been reported in this case, and I shot him because I was mad and not because I was in danger, I am guilty of murder, am I not?
I don't know what "really" happened so I can't "truthfully" tell you how I would've handled this situation. I don't know what I'd do ? It's easy to play qb from the stands.
This post was edited on 8/15/14 at 10:24 am
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:23 am to S.E.C. Crazy
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If officer was attacked we now have a reasoned opinion of why he may have feared for his life, big guy has already robbed someone, now he is attacking the cop in the car and the cop knows if this big guy gets ahold of him he might get his gun or if he is resisting arrest HE VERY WELL MIGHT HAVE A GUN IN HIS WAISTBAND.
This is true even if there was no robbery.
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The witnesses I have seen look a little sketchy to me
Not going to disagree with this, but the departments actions have been sketchy as well.
I do not know what happened, and if the cop felt his life was in danger, robbery or not, then he was justified in shooting the suspect. But, if he was not in danger at the time of the shooting then I think it is murder.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:23 am to novabill
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The robbery does not mean anything regarding the shooting.
The police should have sat on this until further into the investigation. The robbery is only the reason for the stop, it has little to do with the facts of the shooting.
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if the cop felt his life was in danger, robbery or not, then he was justified in shooting the suspect.
His life actually has to be in danger to justify the shooting. Simply claiming I was scared for my life doesn't work.
This post was edited on 8/15/14 at 10:25 am
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:24 am to novabill
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novabill
You have already called this a "murder" and are saying the robbery doesnt mean anything as far as the shooting. Well trying to dissect the shooting from the encounter is nonsense.
You are exactly the type of person I was talking about. Im not saying this exonerates shite but sure as hell changes things and is very relevant to the case.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:25 am to novabill
The robbery does have something to do with the shooting. It shows a mindset of Brown. His actions talking to an officer. If Brown had just left church and not robbed a store he would not have a fear of going to jail. Interaction with the officer may have gone a different way.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:26 am to Dizz
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The police should have sat on this until further into the investigation. The robbery is only the reason for the stop, it has little to do with the facts of the shooting.
Agreed. I would have no problem with them releasing this report had they also released the report(s) on the actual shooting.
But judging by many responses in this thread, they got their desired response. Cop good, big black guy bad.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:27 am to The Spleen
Cop good. Big black guy that just robbed store bad.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:28 am to tysonslefthook
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He was such a sweet kid. Never hurt nobody. He helped the community so much. He was just a big sweet Teddy Bear.
Liberal Idiots Everywhere
When a person is given a set of facts, he will come to a conclusion based on those facts. When a new facts are available, that person may come to a different conclusion.
Based on your statement, you will not change your conclusion regardless of new facts presented.
Who is the idiot?
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:28 am to trackfan
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I don't think it's plausible that if the police really believed Brown was involved with an armed robbery a few hours earlier that they would have waited this long to release this information.
This x1000.
This is very suscpicious. If he did just commit a crime on tape, you really think the police wouldnt have stated from day one that Brown was a suspect in a violent robbery???
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:28 am to The Spleen
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But judging by many responses in this thread, they got their desired response. Cop good, big black guy bad.
You're pathetic.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:28 am to udtiger
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And don't try to claim to be objective...
You seem very objective. I do not trust cops, I think they think they are above the law. No I am not objective. Neither are you.
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aybe to some, not to me. The question I have is all about the murder.
I should have said my question was whether or not it was murder.
I tend to think the cop acted wrongly, you seem to tend to think that since the guy did something bad before the encounter, he likely deserved what he got. The police being secretive about the name of the cop and not releasing the autopsy report tend to cause me to feel better about my position than yours.
I have not made up my mind.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:29 am to graves1
Anyone else trying to wrap their head around the witness's statement that cop tried to pull this huge guy through the window of the police car?
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:30 am to kilo
Just ignore the noise from both sides. Whether the kid was an angel or not is irrelevant to the shooting itself. If shot during a struggle so be it he did it to himself. If shot fleeing and unarmed the officer should see the inside of a cell. This is the issue, not a robbery, or what the officer supposedly said.
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