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re: Mattis as defense secretary: What it means for us, the military, and for Trump

Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:39 pm to
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:39 pm to
Yeah and give the Air Force back to the Army
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:39 pm to
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Yeah and give the Air Force back to the Army
Settle the frick down mister.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:40 pm to
I say get rid of the combatant commands too.
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Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:42 pm to
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I say get rid of the combatant commands too.
Why?
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:42 pm to
This quick response cability leads us to deploy a force any time we get frustrated with statecraft. We don't need to be involved in these regional conflicts.

Yes, I am an isolationist.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:43 pm to
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This quick response cability leads us to deploy a force any time we get frustrated with statecraft. We don't need to be involved in these regional conflicts. Yes, I am an isolationist.
Agree.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:44 pm to
They're an unnecessary layer of bureacracy that don't actually do anything but give senior officers a place to go jerk each other off while they wait for a promition.

When was the last time a combatant command actually fought a war anyway?
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:44 pm to
Agreed. They are just a place to create GO billets. They are not the capability they are portrayed to be. Granted, I have never served on a COCOM staff.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:45 pm to
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They're an unnecessary layer of bureacracy that don't actually do anything but give senior officers a place to go jerk each other off while they wait for a promition
Maybe, maybe not, however I prefer a CC with expertise in fighting said war versus a JCS infighting and giving us another Grenada or Panama type shitshow.
Posted by MrCarton
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Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:46 pm to
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They're an unnecessary layer of bureacracy that don't actually do anything but give senior officers a place to go jerk each other off while they wait for a promition.

When was the last time a combatant command actually fought a war anyway?


Totally agree. It gives us a reason to keep forces there all the time too. Because combatant commands dont give a shite about troops tasked to them.
Posted by Teufelhunden
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Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:46 pm to
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I say get rid of the combatant commands too.


This idea should be explored more.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:51 pm to
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Maybe, maybe not, however I prefer a CC with expertise in fighting said war versus a JCS infighting and giving us another Grenada or Panama type shitshow.



Well under the idea that Wolf and I have presented many times on this board that the Naval services deal with contengency missions and the army gets called when we have real wars that JCS infighting wouldn't have occured in the first place.
Posted by OleWar
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Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:54 pm to
????? CENTCOM led the war in Afghanistan and Iraq until the war in Afghanistan was pawned off to ISAF and MNF-I became a four star command.

With that being said I would like to do away with Combatant Commands, they are too imperial in form, having Generals think that a whole area of their world as their AO is stupid and dangerous.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:54 pm to
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Granted, I have never served on a COCOM staff.




I've been a fly on the wall. If you ever want to watch field grade officers argue for hours over what color their power point slides should be instead of the actual content on the slides then a COCOM is the place to be.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:55 pm to
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JCS infighting wouldn't have occured in the first place.
Sure it would, just manifest itself in a different way.
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Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:55 pm to
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marine


You like patty melts?
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:56 pm to
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they are too imperial in form, having Generals think that a whole area of their world as their AO is stupid and dangerous.
This I agree with.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:57 pm to
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CENTCOM led the war in Afghanistan and Iraq until the war in Afghanistan was pawned off to ISAF and MNF-I became a four star command.



No it didn't. Some task force was formed to fight the wars. They may have reported to CENTCOM for administrative matters but that's as far is it went. There's no reason those task forces couldn't have reported directly to the pentagon.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:58 pm to
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He is semi-Army. He is DoD identity conflicted right now. Give him space.


The correct term is branch-queer, SHITLORD!!!!!!
Posted by MrCarton
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Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:59 pm to
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????? CENTCOM led the war in Afghanistan and Iraq until the war in Afghanistan was pawned off to ISAF and MNF-I became a four star command.


Disagree. Their RFFed forces fought the war. CENTCOM just bogged everyone down with bullshite and took huge dumps on the troops.
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